Reuben Cummings
reuben at gfconsultants.com
Thu Jun 21 10:00:35 CDT 2007
Exactly. I'm selling an app, but what they get is service, support, and constant new upgrades for s set price. Once I get them used to my support they don't leave. I haven't lost a client in 9 years. Reuben Cummings GFC, LLC 812.523.1017 > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Eric Barro > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:33 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] The Business Side Of Databases > > > The key is being able to sell IT as a service and not as a > product. When you > sell IT as a service you get people dependent on it and you get recurring > revenue. Products come and go and people can quickly discard a > product that > they don't like. However, people cannot quickly discard a service > especially > if they've been utilizing it over a period of time. Have you ever tried > changing your gas, water or electricity providers? ;) > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:23 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] The Business Side Of Databases > > I don't do any custom programming. We have some apps that we > thought up on > our own or requested by clients or potential clients. We create apps and > sell them to local government (cities and counties). > > Now were I differ from a lot of people is I don't care about the > sale. I'd > be happy to sell it for $1. Actually I don't sell anything - I license it > all. I live on the service contracts for each app. We charge > anywhere from > 600 to 1200 per year based on which app. I have some clients > paying as much > as 4000/year. The average is about 1000/year/client. Doesn't sound like > much, but with about 60 clients it's pretty decent income. > > And that doesn't include the consulting part of the business which is all > done by annual contract. The key is I only assume the 60k as my > income and > everything over that is a "bonus" > > On our flagship app which is by far the biggest and has the most clients I > only spend about 40 hours/year in service work TOTAL - for all clients. > They don't mind the fee because support calls, on site visits, and all > future upgrades are included in the service contract. > > If the client chooses not to pay for the service agreement on an > app the app > gets removed. The can keep the data, but there isn't much to do with it > without an interface. > > Reuben Cummings > GFC, LLC > 812.523.1017 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:15 AM > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > Subject: [AccessD] The Business Side Of Databases > > > > > > To Everyone: > > > > It's always interesting to see how people who work independently (like > > me) are making money from developing databases or doing something > > related to databases. > > > > This has been my major problem - I can make a great Business Process > > Management System, but getting companies to pay for it is a real > > challenge, even though their return on investment is probably 2X to 8X > > in the first year! > > > > I do wonder if we could begin an ongoing discussion on the business > > side of what each of us does. I think we could all benefit! > > > > Does anyone have some thoughts or ideas on how we could do this? > > > > Thanks! > > Dan > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >