Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Mon Jun 25 08:49:03 CDT 2007
LOL. So true. But it's bad when the programmer/dba is the idiot! ;) I have several 'flags' that I watch for when I need to determine if someone claiming to be computer savvy really is computer savvy. Here are a few: #1. Macs are worthless and are for idiots only. (Macs, while they may be worthless to me, are wonderful for people in the multimedia industry. The closed architecture of those machines provides for screaming processing of very complex tasks. Therefore, they are VERY useful for exactly what they are meant to do. It's a case of using what you need. Now, as far as only idiots using them, clearly graphic designers are not idiots, but truly computer illiterate people due tend to gravitate towards macs...maybe they are just attracted to the pretty colors! ;) ) #2. Access is not a database. (No need to explain this one... ) #3. 'I design websites all the time!' (Followed immediately by) 'What's an IIS/Apache server?' (The Universe seems to be cranking out 'web designers' like they are peanuts. These 'peanuts' get ahold of some (usually Mac based) software that lets them make pretty pictures and designs for a website. Without having a clue about HTML, or how a website actually works, these schmoes run amuck!). #4. (This is my personal favorite) Access is broken. (Really? .001% of these actually involve an issue with msaccess.exe. The rest all involve an issue with an .mdb!) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 5:13 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access and data-driven websites One of my favorite quotes, which I always mangle... The DBAs / programmer's job is to outwit the idiots. The universes job is to create better idiots. Who has been on the job longer? This is a shining example that the universe is pretty good at creating idiots. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 6:01 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access and data-driven websites Very True. It's that kiss of death comment that gets my goat! I have nothing against developing in a server side db, but when someone who claims to be a DBA says that an .mdb run locally on a webserver is bad....GRRRRR! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hawkins Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:18 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access and data-driven websites I agree with you guys that SQL Server (especially with SQL Server Express being so good and so free) is the best choice. However, I deal mainly with small businesses and a fair portion of the time, these guys don't have their own server, don't want to pay to use my SQL Server, or already have their site on $10/month shared hosting and won't spring for the extra $5/month to add SQL Server. Dropping an mdb file into their webspace is the quick and dirty solution for clients whoare only willing to pay for quick & dirty. :) Of course, the clients who have a little vision and are willing to spend money on the industrial grade stuff get SQL Server back-ends. I recommend SQL to everyone, but some of them balk. And don't even get me started on the "fix-it" projects where I have to go in and repair sites that are underperforming. Ugh. The difference tends to be between clients who do not understand the value their site provides to the business, and clients who do. I mean really, $5/month to add SQL to your shared hosting? For the love of all that's holy, crawl off the dime. :p Anyway, my point was not that SQL Server is not the best choice - clearly it is; I'm focusing my whole business around it - but rather that MS Access is not the kiss of death for web back-ends that many seem to think it is. That said, if I never had to do another MS Access back-end again, I'd be OK with that. Robert: I hear you on hosting multiple sites out of one database. I've got a database that is serving up content for 8 different sites. We tagged every record with a SiteID and it's off to the races! Good stuff. -C- The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. 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