[AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac

...I am not at all "hasty" Arthur ...I too spent way too much time looking 
for the basics before it dawned on me that the ribbon "designers" were more 
interested in being "cool" than in being productive ...exit Access12 stage 
left ...right along with bloody Vista.

...afaic, Access12 is just continuing evidence that MS is congenitally 
incapable of producing sequential versions of Access that real developers 
actually adapt enmasse ...count me as patiently awaiting Access14, eh :)

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac


>I am not quite so hasty as you, William. I just wish that I could find the
> commands that I regularly use. I am most willing to accept that newbies
> think the ribbon is cool, but I just want to issue the familiar keystrokes
> and get where I want to go.
> I can't believe that I wasted an hour trying to deduce how to insert a row
> into a table. Who in the world woulda thunk that command would reside on 
> the
> Format menu? What the hell does that have to do with format?
>
> I'm out of here soon, except for hobbyist reasons. I shall probably hang
> around for a few years, for hobbyist reasons. But I'm too old for this 
> s**t
> anymore.
>
> A.
>
>
> On 5/31/07, William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...lol ...the "ribbon" is just plain dumb ...period. :)
>> William Hindman
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac
>>
>>
>> > Hmmn ... And the ribbon is a move to make Office "more" user friendly
>> > and Mac-like.  Sounds like an implication to me .... ;->
>> >
>> > Charlotte Foust
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
>> > Hindman
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:51 PM
>> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac
>> >
>> > ...Mac/Office VBA is only a shadow of Win/Office VBA ...think scripting
>> > macros, not a development language supporting extensive database
>> > development ...so the opt-out in favor of Apple Script is really a move
>> > on their part to make MS Office/Mac "more" Mac friendly ...and has zero
>> > implications for the future of VBA on its own platform ...imnsho, of
>> > course.
>> >
>> > William Hindman
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "John Skolits" <askolits at ot.com>
>> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:20 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac
>> >
>> >
>> >> "What you guys think is the number of years that it will take for the
>> >> number of those actually using VBA to drop below 50% of the
>> >> present count?"
>> >>
>> >> Based on the many legacy systems I see that still rely on the Dos
>> >> operating
>> >> systems, it will be a long time. Below 50%? 4-5 years.
>> >>
>> >> But, it all scares me a bit since Access as a front end and also VBA
>> > are
>> >> my
>> >> primary tools of development. Time to start changing careers?
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MF
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:05 PM
>> >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> MF
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ______________________________
>> >> At 04:38 PM 30/05/2007, you wrote:
>> >>>Boy will there be a BUNCH of companies not upgrading beyond that!
>> > How
>> >> many
>> >>>apps are out there coded in vba?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>John W. Colby
>> >>>Colby Consulting
>> >>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> >>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ken Ismert
>> >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:16 PM
>> >>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> >>>Subject: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>The first shoe has dropped: Microsoft has abandoned VBA in its latest
>> >> Office
>> >>>suite for the Macintosh:
>> >>>
>> >>>Mac Users Face Hurdles with New Office Versions
>> >>>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2138349,00.asp?kc=EWKNLINF053007S
>> > TR4
>> >>>
>> >>>Although there is a converter tool for older Office documents, with
>> >> promises
>> >>>for VBA support in the future, Mac developers are encouraged to use
>> >>>Applescript instead.
>> >>>
>> >>>Access developers have to at least consider the possibility that
>> > Office
>> >>>2007 will be the last version of Office that will natively run VBA.
>> >>>
>> >>>-Ken
>> >>
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