Eric Barro
ebarro at verizon.net
Tue Apr 29 18:09:12 CDT 2008
The IRS criteria for employees vs contractors is when an employer can dictate what you actually work on for the time they pay you. In other words, it doesn't matter how much you are paid or how long you work for them...the guiding criteria is the extent of influence they have on your work. I used to work for a company that was penalized by the IRS for hiring contractors to do the work of what would be the equivalent of employees. From: Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> Date: 2008/04/29 Tue PM 05:38:57 CDT To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorry for joking around Edward - I hope that $15/hr client isn't Your client! That's ridiculously silly - it's the equivalent of about a $25K annual salary, IF you actually billed 40 hr/week all year long - and if you're doing that then the IRS will consider you to be an actual employee. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 6:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Sorry for joking around Sorry for joking around. Things are getting grim. I know a client who thinks $15 an hour is too much. Before this is over, we'll be working for table scraps. -----Original Message----- From: Edward S Zuris [mailto:edzedz at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:02 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? You can fudge that with the F color factor. Is there a color for (2^16)-1 ? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:00 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? I think that is a good estimate. ;-) But you forgot to factor in intellectual and emotional age. Or was that intentional? John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Mark A Matte wrote: > With all the different feedback...and formulas I found...and gas prices... > > Avg Age on AccessD=A > My age =B > Moon phase= C > Years Experience=E > that weird 9 tenths gas thing= 9/10 > windows value for favorite color=F > (F/((A-B)*(C+E)))+9/10=$104.99 9/10 > > We'll go with travel expenses + $104.99 9/10 per hour????? > > > > >> From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:30:19 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? >> >> ...lol ...its funny that something I wrote so long ago remains immediately >> identifiable here ...JC and pks are a legend unto themselves :) >> >> William >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "jwcolby" >> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:19 PM >> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >> >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? >> >>> multi-field primary? >>> >>> Is someone using a multi-field primary? Let me at 'em. >>> >>> John W. Colby >>> www.ColbyConsulting.com >>> >>> >>> Mark A Matte wrote: >>>> Excelent article. I think my favorite part was: >>>> >>>> "will go flat broke and be looking for a salaried position sooner than >>>> John Colby can jump on a multi-field primary." >>>> >>>> Seriously though...The pricing was in line with what I was hearing >>>> 'through the grapevine" >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> mark >>>> >>>>> From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com >>>>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:11:54 -0400 >>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? >>>>> >>>>> ...97 to xp is just minor grunt work if the original coder actually did >>>>> his >>>>> job. >>>>> >>>>> ...but if the "97" code is really A2 code running under the 3.5 library >>>>> then >>>>> you can have a nightmare on your hands ...it all depends on the original >>>>> coder, how much Access Basic used versus API calls, and how well >>>>> commented >>>>> it is/was. >>>>> >>>>> ...my practice is to give them a firm fixed price quote to assess the >>>>> existing code and produce a proprietary report on what is actually >>>>> needed >>>>> ...then go from there once you have something real to deal with ...if >>>>> you >>>>> have the FMS diagnostics suite, this is usually something you can do in >>>>> a >>>>> few hours, produce reams of report paper on, and impress the hell out of >>>>> them without actually killing yourself ...if you don't have the FMS >>>>> Suite, >>>>> good luck ...whatever you do don't give them a price without knowing >>>>> exactly >>>>> what you're taking on ...and make sure that the conversion project is >>>>> extremely well defined in terms of additional reports, functionality, >>>>> etc >>>>> ...and that you have a firm understanding that any and all >>>>> changes/additions >>>>> past your original proposal are at additional cost. >>>>> >>>>> ...as to hourly rate, there's an article I wrote on the subject for the >>>>> first dba newsletter which is still posted on the website ...nothing has >>>>> really changed ...if you run the numbers your rate question should >>>>> answer >>>>> itself ...don't sell yourself short ...its better to starve in a rocking >>>>> chair than to starve while producing code you sold short ...imnsho of >>>>> course. >>>>> >>>>> ...hth :) >>>>> >>>>> William >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Mark A Matte" >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:17 AM >>>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? >>>>> >>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>> >>>>>> A small company needs to have some Access DBs upgraded from Access 2.0 >>>>>> and >>>>>> A97 to XP. >>>>>> >>>>>> They want to provide airfare and hotel...and pay hourly. >>>>>> >>>>>> The project will involve upgrading, some system functionality >>>>>> modifications, and some new reports. Some of their current >>>>>> functionality >>>>>> is "broken" (all the detail they had). >>>>>> >>>>>> Any suggestions to the approach, things to look out for in the >>>>>> migration, >>>>>> or any advice? >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, what would be considered a fair hourly rate? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark A. Matte >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> In a rush? 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