Darryl Collins
Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au
Tue Apr 29 20:51:04 CDT 2008
hahahaha! yeah, I must admit in every role i have had for the past 10 years, I try to make sure I am there because i am learning something. Kind of like going to paid uni really. Right now I am here in my current role as I have had to learn Access and now I am about to have an SQL Server database handovered to me, which will be interesting to say the least! Looks like a few late nights doing research aaaah... :) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2008 8:35 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorry for joking around In 1994 I took a job for $12 an hour. I had been making 44K a year and got laid off, and couldn't get work (Southern California during the recession of 92). In fact I have only ever had one "real job" since that time, I have been a consultant. At any rate, I took this job for $12 / hour learning Access as I built a database for a small company. I read Access books for 4 hours and worked six and they paid me for the whole time. the rest as they say is history. You can believe that the work I did for $12 / hour was worth... about $12 / hour. ;-) But I came out of that job with a pretty good grasp of Access. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Edward S Zuris wrote: > Sorry for joking around. Things are getting grim. > > I know a client who thinks $15 an hour is too much. > > Before this is over, we'll be working for table scraps. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edward S Zuris [mailto:edzedz at comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:02 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? > > You can fudge that with the F color factor. > > Is there a color for (2^16)-1 ? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:00 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? > > > I think that is a good estimate. > > ;-) > > But you forgot to factor in intellectual and emotional age. Or was that > intentional? > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > Mark A Matte wrote: >> With all the different feedback...and formulas I found...and gas prices... >> >> Avg Age on AccessD=A >> My age =B >> Moon phase= C >> Years Experience=E >> that weird 9 tenths gas thing= 9/10 >> windows value for favorite color=F >> (F/((A-B)*(C+E)))+9/10=$104.99 9/10 >> >> We'll go with travel expenses + $104.99 9/10 per hour????? >> >> >> >> >>> From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com >>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:30:19 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? >>> >>> ...lol ...its funny that something I wrote so long ago remains > immediately >>> identifiable here ...JC and pks are a legend unto themselves :) >>> >>> William >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "jwcolby" >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:19 PM >>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? >>> >>>> multi-field primary? >>>> >>>> Is someone using a multi-field primary? Let me at 'em. >>>> >>>> John W. Colby >>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark A Matte wrote: >>>>> Excelent article. I think my favorite part was: >>>>> >>>>> "will go flat broke and be looking for a salaried position sooner than >>>>> John Colby can jump on a multi-field primary." >>>>> >>>>> Seriously though...The pricing was in line with what I was hearing >>>>> 'through the grapevine" >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> mark >>>>> >>>>>> From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com >>>>>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:11:54 -0400 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? >>>>>> >>>>>> ...97 to xp is just minor grunt work if the original coder actually > did >>>>>> his >>>>>> job. >>>>>> >>>>>> ...but if the "97" code is really A2 code running under the 3.5 > library >>>>>> then >>>>>> you can have a nightmare on your hands ...it all depends on the > original >>>>>> coder, how much Access Basic used versus API calls, and how well >>>>>> commented >>>>>> it is/was. >>>>>> >>>>>> ...my practice is to give them a firm fixed price quote to assess the >>>>>> existing code and produce a proprietary report on what is actually >>>>>> needed >>>>>> ...then go from there once you have something real to deal with ...if >>>>>> you >>>>>> have the FMS diagnostics suite, this is usually something you can do > in >>>>>> a >>>>>> few hours, produce reams of report paper on, and impress the hell out > of >>>>>> them without actually killing yourself ...if you don't have the FMS >>>>>> Suite, >>>>>> good luck ...whatever you do don't give them a price without knowing >>>>>> exactly >>>>>> what you're taking on ...and make sure that the conversion project is >>>>>> extremely well defined in terms of additional reports, functionality, >>>>>> etc >>>>>> ...and that you have a firm understanding that any and all >>>>>> changes/additions >>>>>> past your original proposal are at additional cost. >>>>>> >>>>>> ...as to hourly rate, there's an article I wrote on the subject for > the >>>>>> first dba newsletter which is still posted on the website ...nothing > has >>>>>> really changed ...if you run the numbers your rate question should >>>>>> answer >>>>>> itself ...don't sell yourself short ...its better to starve in a > rocking >>>>>> chair than to starve while producing code you sold short ...imnsho of >>>>>> course. >>>>>> >>>>>> ...hth :) >>>>>> >>>>>> William >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> From: "Mark A Matte" >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:17 AM >>>>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] Migrate 2.0 and A97 to XP: Advice and Cost??? >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A small company needs to have some Access DBs upgraded from Access > 2.0 >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> A97 to XP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They want to provide airfare and hotel...and pay hourly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The project will involve upgrading, some system functionality >>>>>>> modifications, and some new reports. Some of their current >>>>>>> functionality >>>>>>> is "broken" (all the detail they had). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any suggestions to the approach, things to look out for in the >>>>>>> migration, >>>>>>> or any advice? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, what would be considered a fair hourly rate? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark A. Matte >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> In a rush? 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