Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Sun Aug 9 00:48:30 CDT 2009
Hi John, Yes, ROTFLA. Sorry, I will post one more comment on that experience as it is related to MS Access 2007 (it's Sunday - let me violate slightly the rules): - during that business trip I did have a choice to use automatic gearbox but I didn't, and I didn't also get full insurance car leaving franchise payment in the case of a small car damage shared with my colleague. I'd also note that this rented car's accelerator's and clutch's pedals were much more sensitive than the ones of mine (I do have some fitness training for my legs while driving the car :)) (when I have got back home and tried to start my car I was first time a kind of shocked how hard is to push my own car's accelerator's pedal) - for the rest that was very good car and driving left hand side wasn't as big issue as using mechanical gearbox and turning left on crossroads without the risk to damage car wheels' tires etc... ...as for Access 2007 - I have used it during that business trip on everyday basis for project's support work, and that was very stressful project with long working hours till 2a.m. sometimes, with 6-7 a.m. getting awaken and then back to work at 9 a.m. - and you know I haven't got any issues with the Ribbon - I felt it was OK and designed *right* for me :) ... You can guess now why I felt so good that time, and I feel so good now with the usage of MS Office/Access Ribbon. :) Advise for the folks who still won't/can't overcome "the Ribbon adaptation phobia": try to experience something like I did (or more stressful experience - sky-diving? :)) and do use MS Office 2007/Access 2007 the same time - and you'll get it *right* for you! ;) Thank you. -- Shamil P.S. But "Microsoft Office 2007: The Story of the Ribbon" thread explains everything, isn't it? Maybe MS folks weren't so careful with the Ribbon implementation for MS Access 2007, as they were with MS Word 2007, MS Excel 2007,... - who knows. Maybe using statistical analysis and eyes' movement tracing isn't the best way to design GUI - we will know that soon when MS Office 2000-2003 will go out of usage and MS Office/Access 2007 and higher will become widespread for the most of users and developers.... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:26 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Access poll ROTFL, I get your point, but I have a choice don't I to rent a "mechanical gearbox". I did drive in Ireland and just made sure I specified an automatic, and it was a relative piece of cake. It was definitely strange, for the entire time, but I don't drink and I had absolutely zero problems driving there. I certainly don't need to start the whole discussion all over again, nor do are you required to respond ever again. Do I feel "Safe" with Microsoft? Sure. Do I think they have MY best interests at heart. Absolutely not! Do I think they have Microsoft's best interests at heart? Absolutely! IF my best interests don't conflict with theirs then fine, otherwise to bad for JC. I too think they are developing some truly world class software. I think the .Net framework is unparalleled in the world today. Did they do it for me? Not a chance, they did it to force me to stay on windows. It makes many many different things possible (even trivial) that might very well be impossible in a Linux environment. But it was decidedly NOT because it was best for ME, personally or as a developer that they went to this huge expense. I just FEEL that it was decidedly NOT because it was best for ME that they did the Office interface redesign. I think it was best for Microsoft. That is the way of the world, and I understand that. But when someone who owns the guitar market suddenly strings backwards all guitars sold in the future, for no other apparent reason than that it is good for their company, I don't have to like it. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: > Sorry forgot to note that the car with the right-side located steering wheel > had also a mechanical gearbox... > > -- > Shamil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru] > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:41 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access poll > > John, > > Let me have this my posting as the last one in this thread? My last posting > but anybody else please feel free to comment on it but do not "force me" to > reply - OK? > > Yes, my example with cars' "interfaces" evolution maybe is not that a good > analogy to comment on what and why happened with good old MS Office > CommandBars replaced by Ribbon. I prefer to not comment (a lot) on what > reasons lay behind that MS decision. I do feel the reasons were good and > real business oriented as I see that MS is releasing more and more mature > software with years both for end users, developers and system engineers. I'm > not saying I understand/can explain all their reasons. Many of them are > beyond me. But I feel good and safe with MS software. (Much) more good and > safe than before. > > Have you ever tried to drive a car in UK, Ireland, Japan...? - or whatever > else country/place in this world where they have a steering wheel on the > right side? And I mean driving such a "unusual car" when you have zero > experience with right-located steering wheel and many years experience of > driving a "normal" car? And you rent such an "unusual car" and you go from > airport almost straight on highway, in the night's darkness, under the rain > etc... > > If you do have such experience you know how it feels - comparing with that > experience learning Ribbon is just a child's play. I mean that. :) > > Thank you. > > -- > Shamil -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4317 (20090808) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.esetnod32.ru __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4318 (20090808) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.esetnod32.ru