[AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.

Max Wanadoo max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Wed Aug 26 08:55:50 CDT 2009


Susan,
It is going through your Registry, not your Drawers...loosen up...

max



On 8/26/09, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net> wrote:
> Susan,
>
>   I don't agree.  How many of us on this very list have identified HD's, NIC
> cards, checked for registry entries, existence of files, etc. all in an
> effort to protect our software?   And the search you state is limited to
> verifying that indeed the copy of Windows/Office is legitimate. It's not
> like they are going through every Excel spreadsheet on my system to verify
> that it was created with a valid copy of Office.
>
> <<Jim, what you're saying is -- that if I want to run a Windows os, I have
> to
> let MS search my system? And, I should be happy to let them do so?>>
>
>   Yes, exactly that.  If you don't want to use their software under their
> terms, which as developers we all do with our own software, then use another
> OS and be subject to someone else's terms or write your own.  Of course
> given the substantial amount of work required for the latter, you might want
> to use some form of copy protection...
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.
>
> Jim, what you're saying is -- that if I want to run a Windows os, I have to
> let MS search my system? And, I should be happy to let them do so?
>
> It's intrusive beyond what's necessary. It goes beyond protecting their
> rights. I've registered my software as required. That needs to be it.
>
> Susan H.
>
>> Paul,
>>
>>   I've never had a problem with it either on any machine I've worked on.
>> And I think your thinking on this is incorrect.  Just because Microsoft is
>> "the biggest, wealthiest company in the IT world" doesn't mean it doesn't
>> have rights.
>>
>>   WGA would not exist if not for pirated copies of their software; how
>> often on this list have we discussed means of protecting our own software?
>> Would you deny them the same right?
>>
>>   And sorry, but they don't just "stroll in"; you either purchased a PC
>> with Windows (their software) and accepted the EULA or you went out and
>> bought it.  Detectives and the tax man don't own anything on your PC.
>> Microsoft does.  So the comparison you gave is comparing apples and
>> oranges.
>>
>>  If your really that unhappy with a software company protecting its
>> rights,
>> then go and use another OS on *your* PC, which BTW is the only thing that
>> you truly own.
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:09 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.
>>
>> The point is, Charlotte, that Microsoft circulate snoop software that gets
>> onto your computer without your authority, and without asking you. If you
>> don't install WGA, it just keeps appearing every time you start (or
>> restart). It's somewhere among the startup programs, but you won't find
>> it.
>>
>> Of course, that's nothing compared to what happens if you do accidentally
>> install it. So many forums talk of the absolute nuisance it becomes
>> through
>> alleging legitimately bought software is pirated. It harasses the owner
>> every time it starts, apparently.
>>
>> The conservatives among us will say, 'Well, if you have pirated software
>> on
>> your machine, you have only yourself to blame.'
>>
>> But detectives don't suddenly walk into your home on the off chance that
>> you
>> might have something you shouldn't have. The taxman doesn't just stroll in
>> and look through your computer.
>>
>> There MIGHT be some empathy if it was being done by a company that was
>> against the wall through so much of its software being pirated. But this
>> is
>> the biggest, wealthiest company in the IT world, owned by the richest man
>> in
>> the world, acting as no other organisation and no democratic country can.
>> And, Charlotte, we made them wealthy, and him the wealthiest. Yet we, the
>> computer user, is treated appallingly and undemocratically by them.
>>
>> So my point is that before we start loving Microsoft, they should deserve
>> to
>> be loved. In my book, WGA is proof that they don't deserve it and nor do
>> they deserve our support.
>> Cheers
>> paul
>>
>> 2009/8/25 Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>>
>>> Sounds a lot like Windows!  LOL
>>> And your point is?
>>>
>>> Charlotte Foust
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:06 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.
>>>
>>> Interesting that the pro-microsofties haven't mentioned the
>>> euphemistically-named Windows Genuine Advantage which arrives on
>>> machines unannounced,  unwelcome, and is just about impossible to get
>>> rid of.
>>> Cheers
>>> paul
>>>
>>> 2009/8/24 Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>>>
>>> > Are you volunteering again, JC?
>>> >
>>> > Charlotte
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>> > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:42 AM
>>> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.
>>> >
>>> > But who will we hate instead?
>>> >
>>> > John W. Colby
>>> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
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>>
>>
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