Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Wed Aug 26 08:55:50 CDT 2009
Susan, It is going through your Registry, not your Drawers...loosen up... max On 8/26/09, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net> wrote: > Susan, > > I don't agree. How many of us on this very list have identified HD's, NIC > cards, checked for registry entries, existence of files, etc. all in an > effort to protect our software? And the search you state is limited to > verifying that indeed the copy of Windows/Office is legitimate. It's not > like they are going through every Excel spreadsheet on my system to verify > that it was created with a valid copy of Office. > > <<Jim, what you're saying is -- that if I want to run a Windows os, I have > to > let MS search my system? And, I should be happy to let them do so?>> > > Yes, exactly that. If you don't want to use their software under their > terms, which as developers we all do with our own software, then use another > OS and be subject to someone else's terms or write your own. Of course > given the substantial amount of work required for the latter, you might want > to use some form of copy protection... > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:23 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft. > > Jim, what you're saying is -- that if I want to run a Windows os, I have to > let MS search my system? And, I should be happy to let them do so? > > It's intrusive beyond what's necessary. It goes beyond protecting their > rights. I've registered my software as required. That needs to be it. > > Susan H. > >> Paul, >> >> I've never had a problem with it either on any machine I've worked on. >> And I think your thinking on this is incorrect. Just because Microsoft is >> "the biggest, wealthiest company in the IT world" doesn't mean it doesn't >> have rights. >> >> WGA would not exist if not for pirated copies of their software; how >> often on this list have we discussed means of protecting our own software? >> Would you deny them the same right? >> >> And sorry, but they don't just "stroll in"; you either purchased a PC >> with Windows (their software) and accepted the EULA or you went out and >> bought it. Detectives and the tax man don't own anything on your PC. >> Microsoft does. So the comparison you gave is comparing apples and >> oranges. >> >> If your really that unhappy with a software company protecting its >> rights, >> then go and use another OS on *your* PC, which BTW is the only thing that >> you truly own. >> >> Jim. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:09 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft. >> >> The point is, Charlotte, that Microsoft circulate snoop software that gets >> onto your computer without your authority, and without asking you. If you >> don't install WGA, it just keeps appearing every time you start (or >> restart). It's somewhere among the startup programs, but you won't find >> it. >> >> Of course, that's nothing compared to what happens if you do accidentally >> install it. So many forums talk of the absolute nuisance it becomes >> through >> alleging legitimately bought software is pirated. It harasses the owner >> every time it starts, apparently. >> >> The conservatives among us will say, 'Well, if you have pirated software >> on >> your machine, you have only yourself to blame.' >> >> But detectives don't suddenly walk into your home on the off chance that >> you >> might have something you shouldn't have. The taxman doesn't just stroll in >> and look through your computer. >> >> There MIGHT be some empathy if it was being done by a company that was >> against the wall through so much of its software being pirated. But this >> is >> the biggest, wealthiest company in the IT world, owned by the richest man >> in >> the world, acting as no other organisation and no democratic country can. >> And, Charlotte, we made them wealthy, and him the wealthiest. Yet we, the >> computer user, is treated appallingly and undemocratically by them. >> >> So my point is that before we start loving Microsoft, they should deserve >> to >> be loved. In my book, WGA is proof that they don't deserve it and nor do >> they deserve our support. >> Cheers >> paul >> >> 2009/8/25 Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> >> >>> Sounds a lot like Windows! LOL >>> And your point is? >>> >>> Charlotte Foust >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:06 AM >>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft. >>> >>> Interesting that the pro-microsofties haven't mentioned the >>> euphemistically-named Windows Genuine Advantage which arrives on >>> machines unannounced, unwelcome, and is just about impossible to get >>> rid of. >>> Cheers >>> paul >>> >>> 2009/8/24 Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> >>> >>> > Are you volunteering again, JC? >>> > >>> > Charlotte >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby >>> > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:42 AM >>> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft. >>> > >>> > But who will we hate instead? >>> > >>> > John W. 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