Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Sat Jun 27 07:50:43 CDT 2009
Yeah, I know what you mean.....I think I will just go and join the cast of LOST on that remote island somewhere... Off to the pub now. It is Armed Forces Day in the UK and I am hoping to meet up with some other vets. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: 27 June 2009 13:38 To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Poll on Access 2007 Max ...gotta give you credit for brass balls, eh ...if you ever do find your way out of that bomb shelter, drop us a note :) William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:19 AM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Poll on Access 2007 > No, you are mixing me up with Susan... > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: 27 June 2009 12:45 > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Poll on Access 2007 > > > I define proficient when I can sit down and write code to do all the > basic stuff without ever > having to look at previous code. > > And then you get old, and you can't even remember where the previous code > is... > > ;) > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > Max Wanadoo wrote: >> Steve, If MS had of put a switch in there RibbonOn/RibbonOff and left it > at >> that, then developers could merely have turned it off until they needed, >> converted to A2007 with all their existing code and interfaces and life >> would have been so happy. But what they done was FORCE it upon us. It >> takes years to be proficient on new "stuff" and only comes if it is >> common >> everyday frequent use. You cannot become proficient by doing a 2-3 week >> course or dabbling in it now and again. >> >> I define proficient when I can sit down and write code to do all the >> basic >> stuff without ever having to look at previous code. >> >> Max >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel >> Sent: 27 June 2009 10:22 >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 >> >> Hi Max, >> >> Yes, I understand, and I have seen the problems that many people have had > in >> >> adapting to change, and recognising the value of the fantastic changes > that >> were given to us with Access 2007. >> >> I anticipate that in 10 years, my work will still be centred around >> Access > >> development. Maybe yours will be too. If so, it is my fervent hope that > we >> >> will look back at this period, and feel gratitude to the Access team at >> Microsoft, for their willingness to take the hard and unpopular decisions > in >> >> order to keep Access current with the IT industry, create a product that > is >> unique in its scope of functionality, and provide Access with a future. >> >> We have to see Access 2007 as the first tentative steps in a major > movement >> towards Access 2010 and beyond, and sometimes tentative steps only make >> sense in retrospect. But I don't think there is any secret about the >> fact > >> that Microsoft is investing hugely in the future of Access, and I have a >> hunch they're getting it right. >> >> Regards >> Steve >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:09 PM >> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" >> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 >> >>> Steve FWIW, I am definitely PRO MS but anti Access 2007. >>> >>> Over the years MS has given the majority a stable site of platforms >>> which >>> enables collaboration at various levels throughtout and across the >>> World. >>> It has never been Un-Affordable although it must be said that costs were >>> never reduced once R&D and Profits Targets were reached - it would have >>> been >>> nice to the old-2-back versions at half price for those who didn't want >>> cutting edge. But for me, MS has been a good thing. >>> >>> What I dislike mostly about A2007 is that, in real development terms, it >>> has >>> bought nothing to the table. It has remove interfaces that have, in >>> some >>> cases, taken years to hone and perfect, and all for the God "Looks". It >>> is >>> functionality and benefits that count and these are beyond the scope of >>> end-users - complex, behind the scene coding has to be done to make it >>> "perform" in a real tough business sense. EG. What did the Ribbon bring >>> to >>> the table for a developer producing a MR2 manufacturing solution? > Answer: >> >>> a >>> lot of heartache to re-write existing code for no other reason than the >>> interface has changed. >>> >> >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com