Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Sat Jun 27 11:07:04 CDT 2009
That would mean going downstairs... Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: 27 June 2009 14:26 To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Poll on Access 2007 ...have you ever considered just moving to the pub? William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:50 AM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Poll on Access 2007 > Yeah, I know what you mean.....I think I will just go and join the cast of > LOST on that remote island somewhere... > > Off to the pub now. It is Armed Forces Day in the UK and I am hoping to > meet up with some other vets. > > Max > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: 27 June 2009 13:38 > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Poll on Access 2007 > > Max > > ...gotta give you credit for brass balls, eh ...if you ever do find your > way > > out of that bomb shelter, drop us a note :) > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:19 AM > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Poll on Access 2007 > >> No, you are mixing me up with Susan... >> >> Max >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby >> Sent: 27 June 2009 12:45 >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Poll on Access 2007 >> >> > I define proficient when I can sit down and write code to do all the >> basic stuff without ever >> having to look at previous code. >> >> And then you get old, and you can't even remember where the previous code >> is... >> >> ;) >> >> John W. Colby >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> >> Max Wanadoo wrote: >>> Steve, If MS had of put a switch in there RibbonOn/RibbonOff and left it >> at >>> that, then developers could merely have turned it off until they needed, >>> converted to A2007 with all their existing code and interfaces and life >>> would have been so happy. But what they done was FORCE it upon us. It >>> takes years to be proficient on new "stuff" and only comes if it is >>> common >>> everyday frequent use. You cannot become proficient by doing a 2-3 week >>> course or dabbling in it now and again. >>> >>> I define proficient when I can sit down and write code to do all the >>> basic >>> stuff without ever having to look at previous code. >>> >>> Max >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel >>> Sent: 27 June 2009 10:22 >>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 >>> >>> Hi Max, >>> >>> Yes, I understand, and I have seen the problems that many people have >>> had >> in >>> >>> adapting to change, and recognising the value of the fantastic changes >> that >>> were given to us with Access 2007. >>> >>> I anticipate that in 10 years, my work will still be centred around >>> Access >> >>> development. Maybe yours will be too. If so, it is my fervent hope >>> that >> we >>> >>> will look back at this period, and feel gratitude to the Access team at >>> Microsoft, for their willingness to take the hard and unpopular >>> decisions >> in >>> >>> order to keep Access current with the IT industry, create a product that >> is >>> unique in its scope of functionality, and provide Access with a future. >>> >>> We have to see Access 2007 as the first tentative steps in a major >> movement >>> towards Access 2010 and beyond, and sometimes tentative steps only make >>> sense in retrospect. But I don't think there is any secret about the >>> fact >> >>> that Microsoft is investing hugely in the future of Access, and I have a >>> hunch they're getting it right. >>> >>> Regards >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:09 PM >>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" >>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 >>> >>>> Steve FWIW, I am definitely PRO MS but anti Access 2007. >>>> >>>> Over the years MS has given the majority a stable site of platforms >>>> which >>>> enables collaboration at various levels throughtout and across the >>>> World. >>>> It has never been Un-Affordable although it must be said that costs >>>> were >>>> never reduced once R&D and Profits Targets were reached - it would have >>>> been >>>> nice to the old-2-back versions at half price for those who didn't want >>>> cutting edge. But for me, MS has been a good thing. >>>> >>>> What I dislike mostly about A2007 is that, in real development terms, >>>> it >>>> has >>>> bought nothing to the table. It has remove interfaces that have, in >>>> some >>>> cases, taken years to hone and perfect, and all for the God "Looks". >>>> It >>>> is >>>> functionality and benefits that count and these are beyond the scope of >>>> end-users - complex, behind the scene coding has to be done to make it >>>> "perform" in a real tough business sense. EG. What did the Ribbon >>>> bring >>>> to >>>> the table for a developer producing a MR2 manufacturing solution? >> Answer: >>> >>>> a >>>> lot of heartache to re-write existing code for no other reason than the >>>> interface has changed. >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com