Steve Schapel
miscellany at mvps.org
Mon Jun 29 00:23:20 CDT 2009
John, I am very sorry, I have obviously misunderstood you. When you said "the developer environment that got totally screwed around", I thought you were referring to the "silly friggin toolbar". As a result of which, I though you'd gone balmy kicking up such a fuss about such a little thing. So I apologise for the misunderstanding. I have seen a lot of people focus on the ribbon as the thing about Access 2007 to whine about, and I'm afraid I jumped to conclusions and lumped you in with that lot. Sorry. Now, what *do* you mean by "the developer environment"? Regards Steve -------------------------------------------------- From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:19 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > Steve, > > You still aren't listening. I don't CARE about the ribbon (except how to > turn it off). I care > about the stupid crap you have to jump through to be a developer. The > needless rearrangement of the > entire environment. > > I repeat, YOU (and MS) AREN'T LISTENING. My clients hire me to develop > applications. Toolbars are > for power users to interact with OFFICE AS THE APPLICATION, not to > interact with an application > based on Access. My clients don't use icons AT ALL. They are in forms, > they enter data IN FORMS, > they run reports. They interact with the APPLICATION that I develop, not > with ACCESS. > > YOU (and MS) AREN'T LISTENING TO ME (or anyone else on this list or the > developer world at large). > > LISTEN STEVE, GET WHAT I SAY. > > My clients have APPLICATIONS which fill the entire screen. I have been > asking my clients to FORCE > their users to move up to 1024 x 768. They are STUCK at 800 x 600. They > have gone out and bought > bigger screens, ALL of their screens are now at least 17" (up from 14" and > 15") many are 19" but > their users want the extra size to help them SEE better, not give the > application more screen real > estate. Now Access comes along and spends a ton of time and resources on > a stupid toolbar which (If > I developed there) I would PROMPTLY turn off because my forms take up the > entire screen as it is. > > Steve, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the toolbar is > simply irrelevant. NONE of my > clients care, at all. Not even one little bit. If they don't care, I > don't care. > > And yet obviously it is the world to you (and MS)? Obviously YOU like it? > Because while we have > been discussing EVERYTHING EXCEPT the toolbar, the toolbar is the only > thing you will discuss. Not > the bug list that never gets addressed. Not the developer environment > that got totally screwed > around. Not Microsoft's arrogant "we don't give a damn what the > developers are saying" attitude. > > THE SILLY FRIGGIN TOOLBAR! > > I am not surmising anything, it is totally irrelevant to me. My clients > aren't asking me to do 2007 > and so I am not. Access 2007 is being positioned as a "power toy" and I > am a developer. Access > 2007 is all about pretty tool bars that don't matter. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4194 (20090628) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com