[AccessD] Poll on Access 2007

"as the thing about Access 2007 to whine about" Steve

...sigh ...you really don't get it, do you

William

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From: "Steve Schapel" <miscellany at mvps.org>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:23 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007

> John,
>
> I am very sorry, I have obviously misunderstood you. When you said "the
> developer environment that got totally screwed around", I thought you were
> referring to the "silly friggin toolbar".  As a result of which, I though
> you'd gone balmy kicking up such a fuss about such a little thing.  So I
> apologise for the misunderstanding.  I have seen a lot of people focus on
> the ribbon as the thing about Access 2007 to whine about, and I'm afraid I
> jumped to conclusions and lumped you in with that lot.  Sorry.
>
> Now, what *do* you mean by "the developer environment"?
>
> Regards
> Steve
>
>
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> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:19 PM
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> You still aren't listening.  I don't CARE about the ribbon (except how to
>> turn it off).  I care
>> about the stupid crap you have to jump through to be a developer.  The
>> needless rearrangement of the
>> entire environment.
>>
>> I repeat, YOU (and MS) AREN'T LISTENING.  My clients hire me to develop
>> applications.  Toolbars are
>> for power users to interact with OFFICE AS THE APPLICATION, not to
>> interact with an application
>> based on Access.  My clients don't use icons AT ALL.  They are in forms,
>> they enter data IN FORMS,
>> they run reports.  They interact with the APPLICATION that I develop, not
>> with ACCESS.
>>
>> YOU (and MS) AREN'T LISTENING TO ME (or anyone else on this list or the
>> developer world at large).
>>
>> LISTEN STEVE, GET WHAT I SAY.
>>
>> My clients have APPLICATIONS which fill the entire screen.  I have been
>> asking my clients to FORCE
>> their users to move up to 1024 x 768.  They are STUCK at 800 x 600.  They
>> have gone out and bought
>> bigger screens, ALL of their screens are now at least 17" (up from 14" 
>> and
>> 15") many are 19" but
>> their users want the extra size to help them SEE better, not give the
>> application more screen real
>> estate.  Now Access comes along and spends a ton of time and resources on
>> a stupid toolbar which (If
>> I developed there) I would PROMPTLY turn off because my forms take up the
>> entire screen as it is.
>>
>> Steve, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the toolbar is
>> simply irrelevant.  NONE of my
>> clients care, at all.  Not even one little bit.  If they don't care, I
>> don't care.
>>
>> And yet obviously it is the world to you (and MS)?  Obviously YOU like 
>> it?
>> Because while we have
>> been discussing EVERYTHING EXCEPT the toolbar, the toolbar is the only
>> thing you will discuss.  Not
>> the bug list that never gets addressed.  Not the developer environment
>> that got totally screwed
>> around.   Not Microsoft's arrogant "we don't give a damn what the
>> developers are saying" attitude.
>>
>> THE SILLY FRIGGIN TOOLBAR!
>>
>> I am not surmising anything, it is totally irrelevant to me.  My clients
>> aren't asking me to do 2007
>> and so I am not.  Access 2007 is being positioned as a "power toy" and I
>> am a developer.  Access
>> 2007 is all about pretty tool bars that don't matter.
>
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