[AccessD] Poll on Access 2007

LOL.  Nope!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


William Hindman wrote:
> "as the thing about Access 2007 to whine about" Steve
> 
> ...sigh ...you really don't get it, do you
> 
> William
> 
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> From: "Steve Schapel" <miscellany at mvps.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:23 AM
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007
> 
>> John,
>>
>> I am very sorry, I have obviously misunderstood you. When you said "the
>> developer environment that got totally screwed around", I thought you were
>> referring to the "silly friggin toolbar".  As a result of which, I though
>> you'd gone balmy kicking up such a fuss about such a little thing.  So I
>> apologise for the misunderstanding.  I have seen a lot of people focus on
>> the ribbon as the thing about Access 2007 to whine about, and I'm afraid I
>> jumped to conclusions and lumped you in with that lot.  Sorry.
>>
>> Now, what *do* you mean by "the developer environment"?
>>
>> Regards
>> Steve
>>
>>
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>> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:19 PM
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> You still aren't listening.  I don't CARE about the ribbon (except how to
>>> turn it off).  I care
>>> about the stupid crap you have to jump through to be a developer.  The
>>> needless rearrangement of the
>>> entire environment.
>>>
>>> I repeat, YOU (and MS) AREN'T LISTENING.  My clients hire me to develop
>>> applications.  Toolbars are
>>> for power users to interact with OFFICE AS THE APPLICATION, not to
>>> interact with an application
>>> based on Access.  My clients don't use icons AT ALL.  They are in forms,
>>> they enter data IN FORMS,
>>> they run reports.  They interact with the APPLICATION that I develop, not
>>> with ACCESS.
>>>
>>> YOU (and MS) AREN'T LISTENING TO ME (or anyone else on this list or the
>>> developer world at large).
>>>
>>> LISTEN STEVE, GET WHAT I SAY.
>>>
>>> My clients have APPLICATIONS which fill the entire screen.  I have been
>>> asking my clients to FORCE
>>> their users to move up to 1024 x 768.  They are STUCK at 800 x 600.  They
>>> have gone out and bought
>>> bigger screens, ALL of their screens are now at least 17" (up from 14" 
>>> and
>>> 15") many are 19" but
>>> their users want the extra size to help them SEE better, not give the
>>> application more screen real
>>> estate.  Now Access comes along and spends a ton of time and resources on
>>> a stupid toolbar which (If
>>> I developed there) I would PROMPTLY turn off because my forms take up the
>>> entire screen as it is.
>>>
>>> Steve, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the toolbar is
>>> simply irrelevant.  NONE of my
>>> clients care, at all.  Not even one little bit.  If they don't care, I
>>> don't care.
>>>
>>> And yet obviously it is the world to you (and MS)?  Obviously YOU like 
>>> it?
>>> Because while we have
>>> been discussing EVERYTHING EXCEPT the toolbar, the toolbar is the only
>>> thing you will discuss.  Not
>>> the bug list that never gets addressed.  Not the developer environment
>>> that got totally screwed
>>> around.   Not Microsoft's arrogant "we don't give a damn what the
>>> developers are saying" attitude.
>>>
>>> THE SILLY FRIGGIN TOOLBAR!
>>>
>>> I am not surmising anything, it is totally irrelevant to me.  My clients
>>> aren't asking me to do 2007
>>> and so I am not.  Access 2007 is being positioned as a "power toy" and I
>>> am a developer.  Access
>>> 2007 is all about pretty tool bars that don't matter.
>>
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