[AccessD] Poll on Access 2007

William:

You will be pleased to know that I have just saved you from committing
murder and suffering a 150 jail sentence.

I went to my BE. Opened it and Encoded it. Copied it to the main BE and ran
the FE.  Tried a few things with no probs.

Absolutely no difference whatsoever that I can determine within a few
minutes (But it is not a runtime MDE - that might make a diff)

My BE is password protected and Encoded and sits within a TrueCrypt file.

Wow! Sometime i just amaze myself...not easy to do...

Max



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: 29 June 2009 21:39
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007

...if they have access to all the table data, they can run their own 
queries.
...I could encrypt the be such that only the mde could access it but that's 
a rpita
...its simpler just to eliminate the power user

William

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From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:54 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007

> William, a question.
> If you have an MDE (which I know you use) and you encrypt the BE, can they
> still run active queries via "the power user"?
>
>
> Max
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: 29 June 2009 20:43
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007
>
> "Unfortunately I have to trash their six months of
> work because it is useless." JC
>
> ...its worse than that ...you have to break their bad habits ...you have 
> to
> pretty much kill their power user ...and if I can't get a new client to
> agree to runtime only installs with mdes up front, I don't take the job
> ...too old for all the problems that are inevitable when some power user
> with a full Access install starts running active queries on the data :(
>
> William
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:17 AM
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007
>
>> > I do have direct contact and I do put your comments to them. As you can
>> > see as someone already
>> said they have a listening issue!!!!!!
>>
>> LOL, yep.  To be honest, I don't believe they care, at all.  They want to
>> keep us believing they
>> care because at this point nobody buys Office with Access unless they 
>> have
>
>> a database project to do
>> (or already have a real Access application), and we sell clients on
>> Access, but in the end they want
>> to sell Access to everybody that buys Office, a MUCH bigger pool.
>>
>> NOTICE, that once everyone buys Access as part of the package, then MS
>> truly won't care, won't make
>> any effort to even convince us that they care about us because they won't
>> need us to sell Access
>> anymore.
>>
>> In the meantime, in order to sell Access to everyone they need to somehow
>> convince everyone buying
>> office that Access is user friendly, they need it, and THEY CAN DO IT
>> (develop a database).  In
>> order to do that it has to be...
>>
>> 1) Pretty
>> 2) Look the same as the other office apps
>> 3) Pretty
>> 4) Look the same as the other office apps
>> 5) Pretty
>> .
>> .continue infinitely downward
>> .
>>
>> Remember that the person buying office knows Word, and they know whether
>> they need it, and EVERYONE
>> knows how to use it.  They know Excel and know whether they need it, and
>> LOTS OF PEOPLE know how to
>> use it.  They haven't a clue about Access and don't know if they need it,
>> and NOBODY in their office
>> knows how to use it (and never will, at a development tool level).  So MS
>> wants to make it DO
>> SOMETHING (anything!) so that people will start using it, see it, think
>> they can somehow use it, and
>> thus BUY IT.
>>
>> I have a standing joke that says that MS is my private marketing
>> department.  They spend millions
>> convincing people that they can build databases, then when they get 6
>> months in and can't build a
>> database, they call me to build them a database.  Unfortunately I have to
>> trash their six months of
>> work because it is useless.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Martin Reid wrote:
>>> One of the problems I have is that by the time you get to actually touch
>>> the software its to late. They have invested millions of dollars already
>>> in the new version and no one is going to actually change that much of 
>>> it
>
>>> in response to anything I put forward. I also make clear at every
>>> opportunity the comments of those on this list who actually do work with
>>> Access every day.
>>>
>>> I do have direct contact and I do put your comments to them. As you can
>>> see as someone already said they have a listening issue!!!!!!
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> Martin WP Reid
>>> Information Services
>>> The Library at Queen's
>>> Tel : 02890976174
>>> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
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