William Hindman
wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Mon Jun 29 17:12:23 CDT 2009
...lol ...I still have a printout of your post on encrypting the be ...I read it through and printed it intending to try it out ...but you know how that goes ...I have a huge stack of "good ideas" printouts that my wife keeps threatening to trash :( William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:29 PM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > William: > > You will be pleased to know that I have just saved you from committing > murder and suffering a 150 jail sentence. > > I went to my BE. Opened it and Encoded it. Copied it to the main BE and > ran > the FE. Tried a few things with no probs. > > Absolutely no difference whatsoever that I can determine within a few > minutes (But it is not a runtime MDE - that might make a diff) > > My BE is password protected and Encoded and sits within a TrueCrypt file. > > Wow! Sometime i just amaze myself...not easy to do... > > Max > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: 29 June 2009 21:39 > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > > ...if they have access to all the table data, they can run their own > queries. > ...I could encrypt the be such that only the mde could access it but > that's > a rpita > ...its simpler just to eliminate the power user > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:54 PM > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > >> William, a question. >> If you have an MDE (which I know you use) and you encrypt the BE, can >> they >> still run active queries via "the power user"? >> >> >> Max >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William >> Hindman >> Sent: 29 June 2009 20:43 >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 >> >> "Unfortunately I have to trash their six months of >> work because it is useless." JC >> >> ...its worse than that ...you have to break their bad habits ...you have >> to >> pretty much kill their power user ...and if I can't get a new client to >> agree to runtime only installs with mdes up front, I don't take the job >> ...too old for all the problems that are inevitable when some power user >> with a full Access install starts running active queries on the data :( >> >> William >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> >> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:17 AM >> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 >> >>> > I do have direct contact and I do put your comments to them. As you >>> > can >>> > see as someone already >>> said they have a listening issue!!!!!! >>> >>> LOL, yep. To be honest, I don't believe they care, at all. They want >>> to >>> keep us believing they >>> care because at this point nobody buys Office with Access unless they >>> have >> >>> a database project to do >>> (or already have a real Access application), and we sell clients on >>> Access, but in the end they want >>> to sell Access to everybody that buys Office, a MUCH bigger pool. >>> >>> NOTICE, that once everyone buys Access as part of the package, then MS >>> truly won't care, won't make >>> any effort to even convince us that they care about us because they >>> won't >>> need us to sell Access >>> anymore. >>> >>> In the meantime, in order to sell Access to everyone they need to >>> somehow >>> convince everyone buying >>> office that Access is user friendly, they need it, and THEY CAN DO IT >>> (develop a database). In >>> order to do that it has to be... >>> >>> 1) Pretty >>> 2) Look the same as the other office apps >>> 3) Pretty >>> 4) Look the same as the other office apps >>> 5) Pretty >>> . >>> .continue infinitely downward >>> . >>> >>> Remember that the person buying office knows Word, and they know whether >>> they need it, and EVERYONE >>> knows how to use it. They know Excel and know whether they need it, and >>> LOTS OF PEOPLE know how to >>> use it. They haven't a clue about Access and don't know if they need >>> it, >>> and NOBODY in their office >>> knows how to use it (and never will, at a development tool level). So >>> MS >>> wants to make it DO >>> SOMETHING (anything!) so that people will start using it, see it, think >>> they can somehow use it, and >>> thus BUY IT. >>> >>> I have a standing joke that says that MS is my private marketing >>> department. They spend millions >>> convincing people that they can build databases, then when they get 6 >>> months in and can't build a >>> database, they call me to build them a database. Unfortunately I have >>> to >>> trash their six months of >>> work because it is useless. >>> >>> John W. Colby >>> www.ColbyConsulting.com >>> >>> >>> Martin Reid wrote: >>>> One of the problems I have is that by the time you get to actually >>>> touch >>>> the software its to late. They have invested millions of dollars >>>> already >>>> in the new version and no one is going to actually change that much of >>>> it >> >>>> in response to anything I put forward. I also make clear at every >>>> opportunity the comments of those on this list who actually do work >>>> with >>>> Access every day. >>>> >>>> I do have direct contact and I do put your comments to them. As you can >>>> see as someone already said they have a listening issue!!!!!! >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> Martin WP Reid >>>> Information Services >>>> The Library at Queen's >>>> Tel : 02890976174 >>>> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >