Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Thu Mar 19 17:31:02 CDT 2009
>That would be age - right? You do enjoy playing with fire, don't you? Be afraid. Be very afraid ... ;-> Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:23 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 >but my memory is fuzzy on that item. That would be age - right? (Ducks and runs) Max ps. The people who want applications without programming are probably the same ones who want Table Level access in Acces.. On 3/19/09, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote: > > It's more than possible. Access has always been pitched to power > users, from 1.0, but people fell in love with it and found it so much > nicer to use and work with than dBase or Paradox, that they switched > over and started developing in Access. Remember PCs were still > somewhat infantile then and I don't think even Microsoft ever expected > Access to grow into the development tool it became. I think that was > in the QBasic days, but my memory is fuzzy on that item. > > > Charlotte Foust > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:43 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > I would expand that to the office suite, not just Access. Is it > possible Access was never intended to be the development tool it > became, but just a power user application. Now they are trying to > reel it back in and move us to .net? > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David > McAfee > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:19 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > I'll Just wait for the next version. > > It used to be every other version of Access was not that great. I > think something got out of Sync. > > 1 -Never used it > 2 - Good > 95 - Bleh, hurl, <dry heave noise> > 97 - My favorite > 2000 - I liked it, but I think it wasnt well liked > 2002 (Office XP) I never really used it > 2003 - Like it > 2007 - more dry heaving noises > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> > wrote: > > With the single exception of the Datasheet Totals, there is nothing > > fundamental,y improved for me as a developer. The quote "..get used > > to it.." made me spit. I can get used to anything, but why have all > > these new ways of doing what is essentially the same. Lots of "stuff" > > is worse - David points them out below. > > For me, I abhor the 2007. No "fundamental" improvements - with this > > "update", beauty is not even skin deep. > > > > Max > > > > > > On 3/19/09, David McAfee <davidmcafee at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I agree with him on these A2007 problems: > >> > >> Not being able to see a list of object sorted by modified date the > >> way you'd expect in Windows Explorer. > >> > >> Losing Alt+D as a way to put the current object in design mode > >> > >> Losing the toolbar item to automatically jump to a form or report's > >> module code > >> > >> Missing right mouse click items like import/export > >> > >> As for the Ribbon, I don't like the "Once you get used to it, its > >> not that bad" that I hear quite often. > >> I don't feel so many command/tol bar buttons need to be seen. As a > >> programer, I feel I need to know what the user needs to have > >> available to them, If they do need something that can navigate view > >> the menus (oops, they removed them!). > >> > >> "Overcoming Resistance to Change > >> > >> For years, the Access community complained that Microsoft was > >> abandoning Access, that they didn't invest enough in it, that the > >> Jet Engine and DAO was dead, etc. Well, the Microsoft Access > >> development team for Access 2007 was the largest ever and Microsoft > >> made a huge investment that added considerable new features to Access." > >> > >> I never really requested change. I hoped that they wouldn't abandon > >> Access, like was always rumored. > >> > >> There are a few new cool features, but they never fixed some old > >> bugs that still go back to early versions of Access. > >> > >> They still haven't made a list box with .fontcolor or > >> .selectedrowBackColor property. > >> > >> The datasheet totals are cool, but I should provide that for my > >> users in their form. Remember, users shouldnt be accessing the > >> tables/queries directly. > >> > >> "In Access 2007, a different approach is necessary for finding your > >> object. Rather than visually finding it, enter some letters of the > >> object name in the Search Bar, and the list of objects gets > >> filtered to just those names. This makes it very easy to find > >> objects by name > >> -- especially text within an object name -- that wasn't possible > >> before. Once you are used to this, it's very difficult to go back." > >> > >> Nah, give me my detail view. The ability to sort by Name and or > >> date is more important to me. My naming conventions is another way > >> for me to quickly find what I need. > >> > >> The Date picker is nice, but is there a way to turn it off? THey > >> may be times where you don't want it to be displayed, or use your > >> own instead. > >> > >> Just my worthless 2 cents, > >> David > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:04 PM, <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > I just thought I'd throw this out there and see everyone thinks. > >> > > >> > http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html > >> > <http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html> > >> > > >> > It does sound like there are some nice new features. 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