Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 17:40:55 CDT 2009
ummm,, bottom lip trembles as Max says...I meant that you would have been too young for it to have any impression on you - years before you started programming.. Max ps. Is that ok? On 3/19/09, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote: > > >That would be age - right? > > > You do enjoy playing with fire, don't you? Be afraid. Be very afraid > ... ;-> > > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:23 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > >but my memory is fuzzy on that item. > > That would be age - right? (Ducks and runs) > > Max > ps. The people who want applications without programming are probably > the same ones who want Table Level access in Acces.. > > > > On 3/19/09, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote: > > > > It's more than possible. Access has always been pitched to power > > users, from 1.0, but people fell in love with it and found it so much > > nicer to use and work with than dBase or Paradox, that they switched > > over and started developing in Access. Remember PCs were still > > somewhat infantile then and I don't think even Microsoft ever expected > > > Access to grow into the development tool it became. I think that was > > in the QBasic days, but my memory is fuzzy on that item. > > > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > > accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:43 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > > > I would expand that to the office suite, not just Access. Is it > > possible Access was never intended to be the development tool it > > became, but just a power user application. Now they are trying to > > reel it back in and move us to .net? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David > > McAfee > > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > > > I'll Just wait for the next version. > > > > It used to be every other version of Access was not that great. I > > think something got out of Sync. > > > > 1 -Never used it > > 2 - Good > > 95 - Bleh, hurl, <dry heave noise> > > 97 - My favorite > > 2000 - I liked it, but I think it wasnt well liked > > 2002 (Office XP) I never really used it > > 2003 - Like it > > 2007 - more dry heaving noises > > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > With the single exception of the Datasheet Totals, there is nothing > > > fundamental,y improved for me as a developer. The quote "..get > used > > > to it.." made me spit. I can get used to anything, but why have all > > > > these new ways of doing what is essentially the same. Lots of > "stuff" > > > is worse - David points them out below. > > > For me, I abhor the 2007. No "fundamental" improvements - with this > > > > "update", beauty is not even skin deep. > > > > > > Max > > > > > > > > > On 3/19/09, David McAfee <davidmcafee at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> I agree with him on these A2007 problems: > > >> > > >> Not being able to see a list of object sorted by modified date the > > >> way you'd expect in Windows Explorer. > > >> > > >> Losing Alt+D as a way to put the current object in design mode > > >> > > >> Losing the toolbar item to automatically jump to a form or report's > > > >> module code > > >> > > >> Missing right mouse click items like import/export > > >> > > >> As for the Ribbon, I don't like the "Once you get used to it, its > > >> not that bad" that I hear quite often. > > >> I don't feel so many command/tol bar buttons need to be seen. As a > > >> programer, I feel I need to know what the user needs to have > > >> available to them, If they do need something that can navigate view > > > >> the menus (oops, they removed them!). > > >> > > >> "Overcoming Resistance to Change > > >> > > >> For years, the Access community complained that Microsoft was > > >> abandoning Access, that they didn't invest enough in it, that the > > >> Jet Engine and DAO was dead, etc. Well, the Microsoft Access > > >> development team for Access 2007 was the largest ever and Microsoft > > > >> made a huge investment that added considerable new features to > Access." > > >> > > >> I never really requested change. I hoped that they wouldn't abandon > > > >> Access, like was always rumored. > > >> > > >> There are a few new cool features, but they never fixed some old > > >> bugs that still go back to early versions of Access. > > >> > > >> They still haven't made a list box with .fontcolor or > > >> .selectedrowBackColor property. > > >> > > >> The datasheet totals are cool, but I should provide that for my > > >> users in their form. Remember, users shouldnt be accessing the > > >> tables/queries directly. > > >> > > >> "In Access 2007, a different approach is necessary for finding your > > > >> object. Rather than visually finding it, enter some letters of the > > >> object name in the Search Bar, and the list of objects gets > > >> filtered to just those names. This makes it very easy to find > > >> objects by name > > >> -- especially text within an object name -- that wasn't possible > > >> before. Once you are used to this, it's very difficult to go back." > > >> > > >> Nah, give me my detail view. The ability to sort by Name and or > > >> date is more important to me. My naming conventions is another way > > >> for me to quickly find what I need. > > >> > > >> The Date picker is nice, but is there a way to turn it off? THey > > >> may be times where you don't want it to be displayed, or use your > > >> own instead. > > >> > > >> Just my worthless 2 cents, > > >> David > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:04 PM, <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > I just thought I'd throw this out there and see everyone thinks. > > >> > > > >> > http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html > > >> > <http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html> > > >> > > > >> > It does sound like there are some nice new features. 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