Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 17:24:17 CDT 2009
> a client dba is someone I trust to reboot the server You go that far? Max On 3/19/09, William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote: > > ...amazing it is just how different our customer environments are ...in my > world a client dba is someone I trust to reboot the server ...their "IT > Department" is me. > ...I prefer my world :) > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:13 PM > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > > That's about the most senseless thing I've ever heard! Most IT > > departments we deal with don't want to come within a mile of an Access > app > > and actively try to prevent their occurrence. > > > > Your customers wnt development without programming?? Are they looking > for > > spreadsheets? > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim > > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:55 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > > > What I am finding that some of our customers do not want any .net > > development or any other development that involves any type of > programming > > language. Some of their IT departments considered it a new developed > > software and it could take several months or longer to get approval to > > begin the project and/or deploy it. If the development is done in Access > > using the tools that came with Access then the IT department considers it > > COTS and no approval is necessary. > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:43 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > > > I would expand that to the office suite, not just Access. Is it possible > > Access was never intended to be the development tool it became, but just > a > > power user application. Now they are trying to reel it back in and move > > us to .net? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee > > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 > > > > I'll Just wait for the next version. > > > > It used to be every other version of Access was not that great. I think > > something got out of Sync. > > > > 1 -Never used it > > 2 - Good > > 95 - Bleh, hurl, <dry heave noise> > > 97 - My favorite > > 2000 - I liked it, but I think it wasnt well liked > > 2002 (Office XP) I never really used it > > 2003 - Like it > > 2007 - more dry heaving noises > > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> With the single exception of the Datasheet Totals, there is nothing > >> fundamental,y improved for me as a developer. The quote "..get used > >> to it.." made me spit. I can get used to anything, but why have all > >> these new ways of doing what is essentially the same. Lots of "stuff" > >> is worse - David points them out below. > >> For me, I abhor the 2007. No "fundamental" improvements - with this > >> "update", beauty is not even skin deep. > >> > >> Max > >> > >> > >> On 3/19/09, David McAfee <davidmcafee at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I agree with him on these A2007 problems: > >>> > >>> Not being able to see a list of object sorted by modified date the > >>> way you'd expect in Windows Explorer. > >>> > >>> Losing Alt+D as a way to put the current object in design mode > >>> > >>> Losing the toolbar item to automatically jump to a form or report's > >>> module code > >>> > >>> Missing right mouse click items like import/export > >>> > >>> As for the Ribbon, I don't like the "Once you get used to it, its not > >>> that bad" that I hear quite often. > >>> I don't feel so many command/tol bar buttons need to be seen. As a > >>> programer, I feel I need to know what the user needs to have > >>> available to them, If they do need something that can navigate view > >>> the menus (oops, they removed them!). > >>> > >>> "Overcoming Resistance to Change > >>> > >>> For years, the Access community complained that Microsoft was > >>> abandoning Access, that they didn't invest enough in it, that the Jet > >>> Engine and DAO was dead, etc. Well, the Microsoft Access development > >>> team for Access 2007 was the largest ever and Microsoft made a huge > >>> investment that added considerable new features to Access." > >>> > >>> I never really requested change. I hoped that they wouldn't abandon > >>> Access, like was always rumored. > >>> > >>> There are a few new cool features, but they never fixed some old bugs > >>> that still go back to early versions of Access. > >>> > >>> They still haven't made a list box with .fontcolor or > >>> .selectedrowBackColor property. > >>> > >>> The datasheet totals are cool, but I should provide that for my users > >>> in their form. Remember, users shouldnt be accessing the > >>> tables/queries directly. > >>> > >>> "In Access 2007, a different approach is necessary for finding your > >>> object. Rather than visually finding it, enter some letters of the > >>> object name in the Search Bar, and the list of objects gets filtered > >>> to just those names. This makes it very easy to find objects by name > >>> -- especially text within an object name -- that wasn't possible > >>> before. Once you are used to this, it's very difficult to go back." > >>> > >>> Nah, give me my detail view. The ability to sort by Name and or date > >>> is more important to me. My naming conventions is another way for me > >>> to quickly find what I need. > >>> > >>> The Date picker is nice, but is there a way to turn it off? THey may > >>> be times where you don't want it to be displayed, or use your own > >>> instead. > >>> > >>> Just my worthless 2 cents, > >>> David > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:04 PM, <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > I just thought I'd throw this out there and see everyone thinks. > >>> > > >>> > http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html > >>> > <http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html> > >>> > > >>> > It does sound like there are some nice new features. Whether they > >>> outweigh > >>> > the drawbacks... > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Rusty Hammond > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ******************************************************************* > >>> > *** > >>> > WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received, > >>> > scanned or otherwise recorded by the CPI Qualified Plan > >>> > Consultants, > > Inc. > >>> > corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or > >>> > review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. > >>> > ******************************************************************* > >>> > *** > >>> > -- > >>> > AccessD mailing list > >>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> AccessD mailing list > >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >> -- > >> AccessD mailing list > >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ********************************************************************** > > WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received, > > scanned or otherwise recorded by the CPI Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. > > corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review > > by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. > > ********************************************************************** > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ################################################################################ > > If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender > > immediately and be aware that the use, copying, or dissemination of this > > information is prohibited. 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