Mike Mattys
mmattys at rochester.rr.com
Sat Mar 21 23:36:46 CDT 2009
Did you notice how comfortable you've gotten here, Max? It's because the patients running the asylum! :) - Michael R Mattys MapPoint and Database Dev www.mattysconsulting.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] science on visual controls > The problem is Michael, that during my lifetime I have spent (wasted) so > much time sitting in rooms where people were nurturing their egos and > trying > to be PC (politically correct) rather than achieve the task in hand. I > have > done so many "Team Building" days that it is unbelievable. When you have > a > basic personality disorder such as mine which is "Identify what you want > to > do - confirm it - achieve it", it does not sit well with people who (and I > have had to endure this) want to discuss the difference between "Aims" and > "Objectives" - I kid you not! When should we use "Aims", when should we > use > "Objectives". Are they different if so, how? And so I. When I chip and > say > "What do you actually want to do?" the shout me down saying "Your missing > the point - this is not about 'doing' anything, it is about talking about > 'doing' something." Yeah right, 'scuse me, I need a pee! > > I have been on courses where I have been told I am not a good Team Member > because I didn't chip into all the arguments about how we need to set up > an > assembly line to make notepads out of scrap paper, paper clips etc. While > they were arguing about it and squirting testosterone all over the place, > I > went to the back of the rooms and made the required 4 notepads. > > I might not be a good Team Member in their eyes, but I am a good Manager > and > have been so for over 45 years. I also achieve. > > Talking of which, I am going to set myself the immediate task of finding > my > way back to bed now! I don't know if it would be called an aim or an > objective but I do know what I want to do and I bet I succeed! > > Thanks > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys > Sent: 22 March 2009 03:59 > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] science on visual controls > > Hi Max, > > I think you have to submit yourself to the appropriate certification > course > ... > Hee Hee !!! > > - > Michael R Mattys > MapPoint and Database Dev > www.mattysconsulting.com > - > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] science on visual controls > > >>I liken the Ribbon to the tools in my garage. They are nicely collected >> into groups each representing a function. I have socket sets, I have >> open-ended spanners, I have ring-spanners, I have woodwork tools, >> electrical >> tools etc. This works very well when I need to go find something that I >> use >> infrequently. For the items that I am constantly using, I have a toolbox >> and in there I can lay my hand on nearly everything I need for 90% of the >> time. >> Pre-Ribbon, Most of the common items were already on the menu items and >> it >> was an easy job to drag-n-drop the odd spanner or two. >> Post-Ribbon, I have to think about "What group would the function fall >> under >> thatI want to use". If I can successfully come up with the same answer >> the >> MS UI group did, then I can click on that and then search for it. I then >> have to repeat it for the next "thing" I want do do. As a developer this >> is >> sooo tedious. >> I want grouping my requirement not by functionality. >> >> Max >> >> >> >> >> On 3/21/09, Jack and Pat <drawbridgej at sympatico.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Susan, >>> Try this in google "computer forms UI design principles". >>> A little dated, but it's a start. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins >>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 4:35 PM >>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] science on visual controls >>> >>> I googled, and got a lot of information about the science, the degree... >>> but >>> >>> nothing specific about what the science has produced in the way of >>> improving >>> >>> UI and data entry. >>> >>> Susan H. >>> >>> >>> > and more specifically , the branch of User Interface Design >>> > >>> > On 22 Mar 2009 at 7:53, Steve Schapel wrote: >>> > >>> >> Susan, >>> >> >>> >> The science is called HCI (Human Computer Interaction). >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com