Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Tue Sep 22 11:15:05 CDT 2009
Hi Drew, Thank you for your information on Virtual Server 2005 and Virtual PC 2007. I have used Virtual PC 2007 just to test how well it works on my system. It works well, and to run one VM it should be good enough for me. But I will probably be using CITIRX XenServer (free) http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/lp/lp_1688615.asp if it will work as described. It's the next in my testing plan. But I'm not sure yet when I will have time for that testing. Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:48 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Virtual PC 2007 (MS), CITRIX XenServer, CITRIX HDX... Hmmmm, first, you can accomplish 1, 2, and the first part of 3 simply with Virtual Server 2005. It's FREE, and compatible with Virtual PC 2007. (By compatible, you can create a VM in Virtual PC 2007, shut it down, copy the .vhd hard drive file to a location where your virtual server can use it, and then create a new VM in Virtual Server 2005 using that hard drive.) Virtual Server machines run in the back ground, not directly on your machine. But Virtual Server is also WAY better at running multiple machines. Virtual PC runs EVERYTHING in one thread, so if you have 3 machines running, you are running them all within one thread. With Virtual server, each virtual machine (that is running), runs in it's own thread. Virtual Server has two 'interfaces' There is a web interface (which is the default interface). This lets you control the entire system, and control an individual VM through an ActiveX control. There is also a VM something or other that let's you 'connect' to a running VM (and this too can be run from another machine (you just install that portion of Virtual Server 2005 on the client machine you want to use that utility on). That interface, however, doesn't let you make changes to anything in the system, just offers a method of actually interfacing with the VM itself. There is also VMRCplus (version 1.8.0.0). It's a free utility that uses Virtual Server's scripting capabilities to give you a handy method of controlling both the server and all the VM's. The only issue I have had with this utility, is that it MUST be run on a standard LAN (100 megabit or better). Running it through a VPN connection (behind a T1 (1.5 megabit) connection) it won't work...it is just pulling too much information down to ever allow you to do anything. Virtual Machines can also be setup to turn on automatically with the machine (and either shutdown or pause when the host machine shuts down), and with the scripting stuff, you can do practically anything you want (including shutting a machine down in order to backup it's .vhd file) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] OT: Virtual PC 2007 (MS), CITRIX XenServer, CITRIX HDX... Hi All, Sorry for off-topic but I expect the subject would be interesting for many developers here, and I do expect some of you do use such a configuration of computers systems I'm considering here to create. Plan: I wanted to have: 1) Several virtual PCs (VPCs), which can be kept and loaded from a common local/Internet store with minimal overheads; 2) When loaded and started I wanted to access VPCs from real desktop on PC they are running as well as via a virtual desktop from other systems running in my LAN as well as from Internet assuming my running VPCs will be seen from there (I will get static IP(s) and my main ISP has a broadband connection to my home/office, which I'm using here every day ); 3) I also wanted the data from some of my VPCs/physical systems backed-up automatically (on schedule) not only locally but also somewhere on Internet; 4) When out of home/office for a long period of time, and having my physical systems shut down I wanted to have (some of) my VPCs moved to an Internet VPS hosting to use them from anywhere in this world. As far I currently understand: (1) - can be done using CITRIX XenServer (http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=683148 ), (2) - using CITRIX HDX technology (http://community.citrix.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=79463606), (3) - using e.g. Amazon S3 Services (http://aws.amazon.com/s3/#functionality ), and (4) - using e.g. Triple8 VPSs (http://www.triple8.net/vps.htm ) Question: Does anybody use/plan to use the above technologies in the near future? If you do use them what are your experience - I'm especially interested to hear about real life experience of using VS2005/2008/2010 development for Visual Studio running on an Internet-located VPS (Virtual Private Server), and accessed via Virtual Desktop (CITRIX HDX) from Web Browser. running on Windows Mobile powered SmartPhone J Well, I'm kidding about the latter "SmartPhone VS development" but I do wanted to know about real life experience of using VS development via Virtual Desktop driven by CITRIX HDX. Please correct me if I'm wrong and advise what are the better technologies in your opinion to apply for and fulfill my plan. Thank you. -- Shamil -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. 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