[AccessD] OT: Friday Puzzles

William Hindman wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Mon Apr 26 20:39:18 CDT 2010


Drew

...this is a well known puzzle with literally hundreds, if not thousands, of 
proofs posted across the net.
...bing Lewis Carroll pensioner puzzle
...the minimum is 10, not 45.

William

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From: "Drew Wutka" <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:55 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Puzzles

> I am really curious where you guys are getting this 'math' error.'
>
> Here is the puzzle, as posted:
>
> " At the end of a battle, the general regrouped his soldiers. They had
> done badly. 70% of them had lost, at least, one eye. 75% had lost at
> least one ear. 80% had lost, at minimum, an arm. 85% of the soldiers had
> lost one leg.
> The general wants to know how many of his men had lost, at minimum, one
> eye, one ear, one arm and one leg. He is stingy with the medals so he
> wants to reward the fewest number of soldiers. What percentage of the
> soldiers should receive medals? You have 5 minutes to decide."
>
> Using that statement, as worded, if there are 100 soldiers in the
> general's group:
>
> 70 lost an eye
>
> 75 lost an ear
>
> 80 lost an arm
>
> 85 lost a leg
>
> So unless you use faulty logic that there are really 310 soldiers, there
> are at a MAXIMUM of 70 that lost all four body parts, and a minimum of
> 45.
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:01 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Puzzles
>
> He was on the right track but his arithmetic is flawed.
>
> I had already posted the graphical answer.  No doubt he cribbed his idea
> from mine - but that is Code Boy for you...!!
>
> You on the other hand are....well, on the other hand...
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Puzzles
>
> ...you and Drew ...birds of a feather ...and both wrong ;)
>
> William
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:59 AM
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Puzzles
>
>>
>>
>> No need.  Clean as a whistle.
>>
>> Min # with all 4 is 1.
>> Max # with all 4 is 75
>> Max # with diff(least + most) is 55
>> QED
>>
>> Just suffle these up and down the line and you will see.  X=injury 0 =
> no
>> injury.
>>
>>
>>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxx
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
> 000000000000000xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxx
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
> 000000000000000xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxx
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxx0000000000
>>
>>
> 0000000000xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxx
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxx0000000000
>>
>>
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:10 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Puzzles
>>
>>
>> ...did you wipe that carefully after extracting it? :)
>>
>> William
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:52 AM
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Puzzles
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I say 55% of whatever value is applied.
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> "The general wants to know how many of his men had lost, at minimum,
> one
>>> eye,
>>> one ear, one arm and one leg. He is stingy with the medals so he
> wants to
>>> reward the fewest number of soldiers. What percentage of the soldiers
>>> should
>>> receive medals?
>>>
>>> ...if the query were what was the minimum % of soldiers who had lost
> all
>>> 4
>>> body parts, the answer would be 10%
>>>
>>> ...but the query was "how many of his men had lost, at minimum, one
> eye,
>>> one ear, one arm and one leg" and that could be anywhere between 10%
> and
>>> 70%
>>>
>>> ...there is insufficient data to provide an answer to the query
> posited
>>> ...imnsho of course :)
>>>
>>> William
>>>
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