Collins, Darryl
Darryl.Collins at anz.com
Mon Feb 22 20:05:27 CST 2010
Yeah, I think this is the crux of it. Trying to enhance MS Access for end users so they can do stuff without having to learn or understand programming. Most folks I know find using Access too complicated (probably because it requires some discipline with your data) and they usually just end up using Excel instead. Although even Excel seems to be beyond some users. Sidebar: Had a user the other day come up to me and asked "how do I insert a table in Excel?". I was like - how do you mean? - the whole application IS a table. She was thinking of it like MS Word Tables and wanted to set up one that was 10 row x 5 cols or something - was trying Insert > Table, and then was trying to colour them in or something so the app 'knew' where her table was going to be. Lordi.... Odd... Anyway..... I digress. Looking at sharepoint in a similar light to Access Macros. Much of it is a bit like SQL Server for beginers. I can see why some folks like it as it can do a lot of the hack work for you, but it comes at a cost though. Me? I prefer to do most of the nuts and bolts work myself... Cheers Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 11:25 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using macros - good thing or bad? Was RE:OT searchinname attachments in outlook2003 In the newest versions of Access, macros have been given a lot more capabilities than they had before. They still aren't as flexible or powerful as code. They're there to allow non-developers to make Access do what they want, as best they can, so they're really end user tools. In Access 1.0, that was all we had. Now, I believe you can do some nesting and other things, but frankly, I've never been interested enough to look into it. You can drive a nail with a rock too, but if you already have a hammer, why bother? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:21 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using macros - good thing or bad? Was RE: OT searchinname attachments in outlook2003 Is there a real reason not to? I've heard some macrophobic language on the list but don't really know if it's because macros are kind of 'old school', not the moderne technique, or if there's a good reason not to use them. I read here also that they've been kind of rehabilitated in A2K7 to the dismay of some. R -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:14 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using macros - good thing or bad? Was RE: OT searchinname attachments in outlook2003 Interesting question Rocky. Macros serve their purpose, but if it can be done in code just as easily, there is no real reason to use a Macro. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:42 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Using macros - good thing or bad? Was RE: OT search inname attachments in outlook2003 General question on macros: why have they fallen into disfavor? I had an opportunity to fill in as a teacher of an advanced Access course and a lot of the course was on macros which I never use. Got a legacy 2007 app to work with last month and it was full of macros. Macros: good or bad? TIA Rocky The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. 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