[AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Fri Jul 9 11:05:49 CDT 2010


Hi John:

There are two ends to the web... the supplier end and user end. With your
business you fall into the supplier end. ;-)

Jim



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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development

Yep.  Not to mention the power outage knocking out the cable and then having
no connection to the 
web.  Suddenly I cannot even look at a spreadsheet, or create a word
document?

I don't think so.

I run a business which uses SQL Server to do massive processing stuff.  I
run it all on my servers 
and the application I use is SS Management Server (never going web) and my
own custom written C# app 
(no reason to ever go web).  If I lose power, I have a generator and I can
merrily continue onward 
with my work.  There is just no way I would ever put this whole thing on the
web, or even use a 
browser to replace the in-house desktop apps.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Drew Wutka wrote:
> For many data centric apps, I agree that a vast majority will be moved
> to a web interface.  But I just don't see a truly web only world coming
> along anytime soon.  There are too many applications which either don't
> fit with a web design, or simply won't work with a web design.  Take a
> home user that wants to do their budget. No way will the average user
> stop using their own spreadsheet program, to put their personal budget
> on the web instead.  How about design software, like SolidWorks.... who
> would that 'fit' on the web?
> 
> I believe the web has gotten massively bigger in the last decade, and I
> agree it will continue to get bigger, it just will never be all
> consuming.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:55 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development
> 
> Most of the POS web stuff I work with is all proprietary applications.
> You
> would never see any of it unless you work in the particular company...
> most
> of it is web based or cytrix based and all connected via VPNs.
> 
> For example, just check out your Wal-Mart casher... The app on her
> station
> can be changed every night and every thing sold or brought back, is
> calibrated in virtually real time. Sales from all over the world stream
> in
> to some central office, in the US. (I can not remember where). This is
> one
> of IBM's big contracts but I have been brought in, from time to time, to
> assist with server installs and district wide roll-outs.
> 
> There is and always will be a place for desktop apps but their
> importance,
> especially among the giants of industry who want centralized control,
> the
> desktop is no longer used other than as a platform from which to support
> their web or web interface apps.
> 
> That is the way I see everything going but I could be wrong.
> 
> Jim
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development
> 
> I've been building web applications for quite some time.  I've seen a
> lot of change in web stuff.  Just got my feet wet with an ASP.Net
> project.
> 
> While I partially agree, that web applications will continue to grow,
> and more and more things will be web interfaces, I just can't see the
> web as being an all encompassing platform.
> 
> Let me give you an example of where web interfaces fall flat.  I go to
> the Dell website pretty frequently.  I setup about 1 computer a week, on
> average.  So I use the utility on their site that gets the service tag
> number of the new machine, to download drivers.  That 'tool', takes
> about 20 seconds to install.  It then takes about 15 seconds to get the
> service tag.  I have my own VB program that gets the same info through
> WMI, in a fraction of a second.
> 
> The web is too open.  To give it the power a local application has is
> ludicrous.
> 
> Just my opinion though.
> 
> Drew
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