jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Fri Jul 9 11:56:28 CDT 2010
Jim, You are correct of course, but the point is that the web isn't the end all. When the internet connection goes down, with Thunderbird for example I can be busily writing emails, looking at old emails with attachments (lots of those) etc. With GMail I can't. My client sends me spreadsheets with the order details. With Excel they are stored on my local computer and I can be working on his order. With Google Spreadsheet (what is it called?) I can't. Just one of many examples. MAYBE someday the connection to the internet will be 100% reliable, just NEVER go down. OTOH how long have we been using electricity and phone. How often do those go down. Yea, I am the extreme perhaps, though for businesses perhaps not. I bought a propane powered "whole house" generator and I have battery backup to get my computers through the 30 seconds until the generator fires up and kicks in. When the power (and internet) fail, I am out of business for about 30 seconds at night (no light) but otherwise I just go on with what I am doing. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi John: > > There are two ends to the web... the supplier end and user end. With your > business you fall into the supplier end. ;-) > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:43 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development > > Yep. Not to mention the power outage knocking out the cable and then having > no connection to the > web. Suddenly I cannot even look at a spreadsheet, or create a word > document? > > I don't think so. > > I run a business which uses SQL Server to do massive processing stuff. I > run it all on my servers > and the application I use is SS Management Server (never going web) and my > own custom written C# app > (no reason to ever go web). If I lose power, I have a generator and I can > merrily continue onward > with my work. There is just no way I would ever put this whole thing on the > web, or even use a > browser to replace the in-house desktop apps. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > Drew Wutka wrote: >> For many data centric apps, I agree that a vast majority will be moved >> to a web interface. But I just don't see a truly web only world coming >> along anytime soon. There are too many applications which either don't >> fit with a web design, or simply won't work with a web design. Take a >> home user that wants to do their budget. No way will the average user >> stop using their own spreadsheet program, to put their personal budget >> on the web instead. How about design software, like SolidWorks.... who >> would that 'fit' on the web? >> >> I believe the web has gotten massively bigger in the last decade, and I >> agree it will continue to get bigger, it just will never be all >> consuming. >> >> Drew >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence >> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:55 PM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development >> >> Most of the POS web stuff I work with is all proprietary applications. >> You >> would never see any of it unless you work in the particular company... >> most >> of it is web based or cytrix based and all connected via VPNs. >> >> For example, just check out your Wal-Mart casher... The app on her >> station >> can be changed every night and every thing sold or brought back, is >> calibrated in virtually real time. Sales from all over the world stream >> in >> to some central office, in the US. (I can not remember where). This is >> one >> of IBM's big contracts but I have been brought in, from time to time, to >> assist with server installs and district wide roll-outs. >> >> There is and always will be a place for desktop apps but their >> importance, >> especially among the giants of industry who want centralized control, >> the >> desktop is no longer used other than as a platform from which to support >> their web or web interface apps. >> >> That is the way I see everything going but I could be wrong. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka >> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:21 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development >> >> I've been building web applications for quite some time. I've seen a >> lot of change in web stuff. Just got my feet wet with an ASP.Net >> project. >> >> While I partially agree, that web applications will continue to grow, >> and more and more things will be web interfaces, I just can't see the >> web as being an all encompassing platform. >> >> Let me give you an example of where web interfaces fall flat. I go to >> the Dell website pretty frequently. I setup about 1 computer a week, on >> average. So I use the utility on their site that gets the service tag >> number of the new machine, to download drivers. That 'tool', takes >> about 20 seconds to install. It then takes about 15 seconds to get the >> service tag. I have my own VB program that gets the same info through >> WMI, in a fraction of a second. >> >> The web is too open. To give it the power a local application has is >> ludicrous. >> >> Just my opinion though. >> >> Drew >> The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person or entity >> to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI > Business >> Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > the sender >> immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic > or hard copy. >> You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, > dissemination, >> or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information > by persons >> or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. >> >>