[AccessD] Visual Studio Express (was: Treeview/Listview OCX Disabled by MS)

Gustav Brock Gustav at cactus.dk
Sat Mar 13 11:33:26 CST 2010


Hi John and William

And let us not forget to mention the fabulous implementing of IntelliSense which is driven to an extreme in Visual Studio.

/gustav


>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 13-03-2010 17:28 >>>
I second pretty much everything William said, EXCEPT that I did not find C# syntax all that trivial 
to pick up.  But like William I forced myself to do it and I am happy I did.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


William Hindman wrote:
> ...vb.net and c#.net are virtually identical in their capabilities ...only 
> the syntax is significantly different in the latest versions and you'll pick 
> that up fairly quickly ...learning the net framework is the major effort, 
> not the language you choose to work in ...I started in vb.net because the 
> syntax seemed more familiar but that's really an illusion since it's very 
> different from vba in reality ...I've since moved to forcing myself to work 
> in c#.net because 1) that's where the work is and 2) that's what ~70% or 
> more of the on-line responses and sample code are written in ...and I live 
> on sample code ...besides which, there are some very good (and free) on-line 
> translators between the two now ...if I were starting over in net I'd pass 
> on vb.net and go straight to c#.net
> 
> ...if I recall correctly, you're an unbounder in Access and that will make 
> the transition to VS a lot simpler than it was for a bounder like me ...and 
> if you're learning by converting an existing Access app as I did, you can 
> use the current mdb be as your database while you learn VS, then learn SQL 
> Server once you've gotten past the major VS learning curve ...the conversion 
> to SS is pretty straight forward in VS.
> 
> ...forms design paradigm in net is different than Access and takes more time 
> ...but once you get the hang of it, the framework allows virtually infinite 
> capabilities that Access can't begin to match ...as gustav mentioned, there 
> are literally dozens of ways to accomplish almost anything in net ...and 
> tools, tools, tools, and more tools ...which can be a pita until you work 
> out your own preferences ...I started with the express version and then 
> upgraded to VS2008 Pro ...and it looks like VS2010 is an even better product 
> ...I can't begin to tell you how much I like working in VS compared to 
> Access ...MS put a lot of their best talent into developing this product.
> 
> ...dba runs a vb list that has really become a c# list of late even though 
> the name remains ...join and you'll find gustav, jc, and others you'll 
> recognize already there.
> 
> William






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