[AccessD] Visual Studio Express (was: Treeview/Listview OCXDisabled by MS)

William Hindman wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Sat Mar 13 11:47:53 CST 2010


gustav

...there are so many such goodies in VS that you can't even cover the 
highlights in a single post.

William

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From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:33 PM
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Studio Express (was: Treeview/ListviewOCXDisabledby MS)

> Hi John and William
>
> And let us not forget to mention the fabulous implementing of IntelliSense 
> which is driven to an extreme in Visual Studio.
>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 13-03-2010 17:28 >>>
> I second pretty much everything William said, EXCEPT that I did not find 
> C# syntax all that trivial
> to pick up.  But like William I forced myself to do it and I am happy I 
> did.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> William Hindman wrote:
>> ...vb.net and c#.net are virtually identical in their capabilities 
>> ...only
>> the syntax is significantly different in the latest versions and you'll 
>> pick
>> that up fairly quickly ...learning the net framework is the major effort,
>> not the language you choose to work in ...I started in vb.net because the
>> syntax seemed more familiar but that's really an illusion since it's very
>> different from vba in reality ...I've since moved to forcing myself to 
>> work
>> in c#.net because 1) that's where the work is and 2) that's what ~70% or
>> more of the on-line responses and sample code are written in ...and I 
>> live
>> on sample code ...besides which, there are some very good (and free) 
>> on-line
>> translators between the two now ...if I were starting over in net I'd 
>> pass
>> on vb.net and go straight to c#.net
>>
>> ...if I recall correctly, you're an unbounder in Access and that will 
>> make
>> the transition to VS a lot simpler than it was for a bounder like me 
>> ...and
>> if you're learning by converting an existing Access app as I did, you can
>> use the current mdb be as your database while you learn VS, then learn 
>> SQL
>> Server once you've gotten past the major VS learning curve ...the 
>> conversion
>> to SS is pretty straight forward in VS.
>>
>> ...forms design paradigm in net is different than Access and takes more 
>> time
>> ...but once you get the hang of it, the framework allows virtually 
>> infinite
>> capabilities that Access can't begin to match ...as gustav mentioned, 
>> there
>> are literally dozens of ways to accomplish almost anything in net ...and
>> tools, tools, tools, and more tools ...which can be a pita until you work
>> out your own preferences ...I started with the express version and then
>> upgraded to VS2008 Pro ...and it looks like VS2010 is an even better 
>> product
>> ...I can't begin to tell you how much I like working in VS compared to
>> Access ...MS put a lot of their best talent into developing this product.
>>
>> ...dba runs a vb list that has really become a c# list of late even 
>> though
>> the name remains ...join and you'll find gustav, jc, and others you'll
>> recognize already there.
>>
>> William
>
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