[AccessD] From a reader

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Tue Feb 8 14:45:24 CST 2011


No one should be able to build a web site with any tool until they can prove
they can build a commercial site with note-pad. ;-)

Jim



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] From a reader

The funny thing is, the reason Access gets such a bad name is that it
can be used by amateurs, and when that happens, you get clunky.

A professional Access developer understands what an .mdb is.  They
understand the inner-workings enough to optimize performance. 

This is the same reason so many 'clunky' web applications have been
made.

How many Access pro's could tell you EXACTLY what Jet is doing when you
are running 'SELECT * FROM tblSomething WHERE ID=1' against a table in a
backend .mdb?  Probably very few.  How many could give you a conceptual
statement as to what is happening, like 'Jet is reading the index values
from the b/e .mdb, and then using that information to determine where to
start reading the table data'?  Probably most.  Yet how many 'amateurs'
have even a conceptual understanding?  They don't need to, Access just
does things for them.

Same problem with the web.  There are a WIDE variety of tools available,
that let someone with little to no understanding of a
website/webserver/browser system throw a 'fully functioning' (<--- term
used very loosely) 'website' (<---also used very loosely) up into
production.  It has been this way for a while.  

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] From a reader

I just LOVE that word "Clunky" to describe a web app !!

When everyone says how great the web is, I just point out all of the
"clunky" webapps I have to tolerate....from my bank, to my insurance
company, and on and on it goes. Then I get to a client site and have to
tolerate all of THEIR clunky webapps. They are slow, they don't respond,
they forget to validate, etc, etc., they don't integrate with windows,
they
don't cut-and-paste properly, and the list just goes on forever.

I'm going for a long, long winternight's sleep. Someone wake me up when
all
clunky web apps have been upgraded to Web 2.0 standards.


> make it 'look' like an access combobox, and act like it, but what's
> happening in the background is clunky.  First, .Net is creating
> javascript on the client side that is reacting to the 'OnClick' of the
> combobox (or index changed event), then it's sending all the current


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