[AccessD] Joomla

Doug Murphy dw-murphy at cox.net
Mon Jan 17 11:54:21 CST 2011


Jim,

Have you looked at the selection of skins for DNN? You can pretty much make
you DNN site look any way you want or creat your own skins. My biggest
complaint with DNN is slowness. This may not be a problem with dedicated
servers but with shared hosting it is dropped from the memory pool if not
used for a while and needs to be reloaded on the next use. I might have
better results with a hosting service that specializes in DNN hosting. For
now most sites are on Godaddy.

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joomla

I must admit those sites don't look like a standard DNN site... which are
horrible, in their commonality. (Just like the graphic program Bryce... It
was great graphic program but all the graphics looked like Bryce.) 

A good list of sites.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joomla

Hi Jim --

OK. :)

I'd set them this way:

- features;
- performance;
- appearance.

with all three aiming "to get perfect first time" for companies with big
bucks but for others from real world getting real results maybe not 100% but
just 99.98% perfect and using DNN :)

Here are a few samples I have in my selection list, which look 99%-100%
satisfactory for me - (not my projects - I'm not a "DNN wizard" (yet)):

http://www.jackandjillholidays.com
http://www.thenewdesigner.co.uk/
http://www.edgetrainingsystems.com/
http://camt.artsnet.org
http://www.wilmingtonnc.gov
http://www.croatiaairlines.com/
http://www.reachoutside.com/
http://www.nyxdata.com/
http://www.apronstagerestaurant.co.uk
http://www.challengerpools.com/
http://www.dotcomsoftwaresolutions.com/
http://www.bancodecordonivida.com/

Please mark the ones from the above list you might find not 99%-100%
satisfactory from your point of view - let's review them here? :)

Some projects above are from Rick Beddie:
http://www.psdtodnn.com 

He knows all "ins and outs" of DNN and DNN skinning - I talked to him by
e-mail a few times: AFAIHGFH there are no big secrets there how to make DNN
flying - one have to be just a good web developer, and to use one of broadly
available these days rather inexpensive ASP.NET hosting...

Just a warning: DNN has several months-half an year or even more learning
curve for *customization* developer's work experience but to make a good
working CMS using free community edition plus a few inexpensive commercial
modules and skins doesn't need any custom programming at all, one don't need
even to be even a programmer if they use PowerDNN or similar hosting...

DNN also has a bit heavy codebase, yes...

I have just recently found what could become a real DNN rival in long run:

Orchard CMS
http://orchardproject.net/

as it comes from MS guys, and it doesn't have all that "legacy burden" DNN
has got historically as its development started from ASP.NET 1.1 AFAIK...

Thank you.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 17 ?????? 2011 ?. 4:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joomla

I guess "the proof is in the pudding" as they say. I would not mind seeing
some of the websites that both DNN and Joomla have created. 

Appearance is as important as performance...just like would you be
comfortable in an Airplane that has broken seats regardless of who designed
the air craft. But the features have to be there as well.

As I can not be an expert at everything I will have to settle on a few core
products and any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joomla

Hi All --

Sorry a bit off-topic - I suppose that DNN 5.x Community Edition is the best
free CMS for MS shops.

Why goto Joomla (.PHP) path if you're an "MS fun"? :)

Thank you.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 16 ?????? 2011 ?. 20:42
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joomla

Hi Jim

That depends, but if you are looking for CMS-style systems, at least two
top-notch Open Source systems for .NET exist.

Composite C1:
http://www.composite.net/C1.aspx 

Umbraco:
http://www.umbraco.org 

They are quite different - and both different from DNN - and I haven't had a
need for either of them so I cannot advice further.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 16-01-2011 18:01 >>>
Hi Ken:

To be honest, I have never been able to get a client fully self-sufficient
and after 30 plus have basically given up on it. ;-)

Joomla, like DNN may not be the product I need. So far, when building web
sites I use ASP.Net to build the mock up/lay our and then go in and remove
the extra pieces (lots and lots of extra pieces as every possible option is
code managed), while stuffing in some of my own code. It is not a super fast
construction method but it is getting faster and it is quicker than building
the whole site from scratch.

I do not know if any other person uses this crude hack method but is there a
good pre-existing clean frame-work so I do not need to re-invent the wheel.

Jim



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