jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Sat Jun 18 20:27:52 CDT 2011
Well, RAM is cheap relatively speaking. I would go with 8 gigs minimum. You can always add more later. Or just get 16 (usually the max you can put in it) and be done with it. I have consolidated my systems recently and am using VMs heavily. I have a VM server (Windows 2008 x64) with a quad core AMD and 16 gigs running 3 VMS. I have a SQL Server (Windows 2008 x64) with an 8 core processor and 32 gigs RAM running SQL Server. I have a linux box running my Unraid storage. It has a quad core and 4 gigs I believe. My laptop has a dual core (no hyper threading) and 4 gigs (of which 3 is available) running Vista X32. I sit at my laptop but spend most of my time in a VM or otherwise remote desktopping into a remote machine. Thus the power of the laptop is of limited impact. I do have an external keyboard, mouse and dual monitors on the laptop. It is really the power of the machine I remote into that makes the biggest difference. In your case, more / faster is better. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com On 6/18/2011 8:57 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > And how much RAM do you need before adding more doesn't improve response? > > I keep Outlook open all the time and it seems to be a processor hog. > Sometimes two access apps - with code windows. > > TIA > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multi-Core Processors > > Rocky, > > The operating system takes care of it all. Windows (or Linux) has > waaaaaayyyy more threads running at a time that there are cores, regardless > of how many cores you have. The OS decides what core to run a thread on. > Even applications such as Word may be multi-threaded, for example the spell > checker in Word runs on its own thread to spell check the document in real > time as you type in words. Firefox has a thread looking things up on Google > as you type. Like that. > > Open task manager and click the processes tab. Every single one of those > processes requires *at > least* one thread. So anyone who says more cores doesn't help obviously has > no understanding of how multi-tasking works. > > > For my money, the more (real) cores the better. 4 real cores is better than > 2, and is better than 2 real cores and two hyper threads. Of course 4 real > cores and 4 hyper threads is better yet. > > For my money, buy as many cores as you can afford. A hex core with hyper > threading will (currently) be the best you can get. Kinda. I have a server > which has dual sockets which can each have a 12 core AMD processor so I > could have 24 real cores available if I could afford that. I can't, but I > do have a single 8 core processor. I use that box for SQL Server. > > Intel cores are (currently) faster and so it is misleading to directly > compare AMD real cores to Intel real cores. > > A quad core Intel with hyper threading is probably going to be faster than a > hex core AMD without hyper threading *for most applications*. For a SQL > Server OTOH perhaps not. > > For your case given that you are flush, go Intel i7 with as many cores as > you can afford. Make sure it has Hyper threading, though I think all i7s do > have that. > > You will be happy for a long while. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > On 6/18/2011 8:27 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: >> Dear List(s): >> >> In order to take advantage of multi-core processors, do the >> applications need to be modified? Or is it taken care of by the >> operating system or the chip? >> >> IOW, I start an access app, open an mdb, then I retrieve my email from >> Outlook. Do those two apps run in separate cores theoretically >> improving the response time? Does the Word doc I open then run in a >> third core (of a presumably quad core processor). >> >> And if I open the file open or save dialog box in an app like an >> Office app, does that run in a separate core? >> >> I'm trying to decide if I need/should get dual, quad, or hex core >> processor in a new comp. >> >> MTIA >> >> Rocky >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >