Rocky Smolin
rockysmolin at bchacc.com
Sun Jun 19 09:51:39 CDT 2011
"...shows the % use of each separate core..." now THAT'S cool! OK, gotta get the multi-core now. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:46 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multi-Core Processors Hi Rocky, In W7 I have the CPU meter gadget on the desktop. This shows both CPU % and Memory %. I have 6 Gb of Ram - the only time it gets up toward 80% is for a few seconds when I open Virtual PC. So with that I know I have enough Ram. I also have a gadget which shows the % use of each separate core - they all get used! See www.addgadget.com. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:57 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multi-Core Processors And how much RAM do you need before adding more doesn't improve response? I keep Outlook open all the time and it seems to be a processor hog. Sometimes two access apps - with code windows. TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:46 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multi-Core Processors Rocky, The operating system takes care of it all. Windows (or Linux) has waaaaaayyyy more threads running at a time that there are cores, regardless of how many cores you have. The OS decides what core to run a thread on. Even applications such as Word may be multi-threaded, for example the spell checker in Word runs on its own thread to spell check the document in real time as you type in words. Firefox has a thread looking things up on Google as you type. Like that. Open task manager and click the processes tab. Every single one of those processes requires *at least* one thread. So anyone who says more cores doesn't help obviously has no understanding of how multi-tasking works. For my money, the more (real) cores the better. 4 real cores is better than 2, and is better than 2 real cores and two hyper threads. Of course 4 real cores and 4 hyper threads is better yet. For my money, buy as many cores as you can afford. A hex core with hyper threading will (currently) be the best you can get. Kinda. I have a server which has dual sockets which can each have a 12 core AMD processor so I could have 24 real cores available if I could afford that. I can't, but I do have a single 8 core processor. I use that box for SQL Server. Intel cores are (currently) faster and so it is misleading to directly compare AMD real cores to Intel real cores. A quad core Intel with hyper threading is probably going to be faster than a hex core AMD without hyper threading *for most applications*. For a SQL Server OTOH perhaps not. For your case given that you are flush, go Intel i7 with as many cores as you can afford. Make sure it has Hyper threading, though I think all i7s do have that. You will be happy for a long while. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com On 6/18/2011 8:27 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > Dear List(s): > > In order to take advantage of multi-core processors, do the > applications need to be modified? Or is it taken care of by the > operating system or the chip? > > IOW, I start an access app, open an mdb, then I retrieve my email from > Outlook. Do those two apps run in separate cores theoretically > improving the response time? Does the Word doc I open then run in a > third core (of a presumably quad core processor). > > And if I open the file open or save dialog box in an app like an > Office app, does that run in a separate core? > > I'm trying to decide if I need/should get dual, quad, or hex core > processor in a new comp. > > MTIA > > Rocky > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com