[AccessD] Office 365

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Mar 24 13:05:55 CDT 2011


It is an MS thing. It is how the site was built. The site builder first
created the site in IE and that is a far as they went...just a little lazy
as IE tends to break a good number of the W3C rules.

I first build my sites so they would perfect on Chrome, FF, Safari and
Opera, and that may take a week then there is IE and to get it to comply
takes another week. (Clients never like paying double for IE compliance.
Some have gone so far, in their in Intranet sites as to block IE) It usually
requires another set CSS and JS script files, a few patches but using JQuery
mostly handles the problems. JQuery usually tries to keep ahead of IE but it
can be a difficult task...with every update another set of problems...
IE6/IE7/IE8 and now IE9 all work slightly different.

I am sure MS IE will eventually compile with the industry standards but I am
sure it is a humbling experience for them to realize that, unlike the old
days, their standard does not imply the new world standard.

Jim

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office 365

Amen to that. I used Firefox almost exclusively till I had to use IE on
some particular sites. However When I updated to IE 8 and Somewhere I
installed some little program of which I don't know Or the latest
Firefox Update caused my print reports in Firefox to quit working.
Havn't figured that one out yet and some State sites and the Bank I use
I had to switch back to IE to get printouts. I'm thinking it's a MS
thing.

Steve A. Turner
Controller
Mid-South Engineering Co. Inc
E-Mail: sturner at mseco.com and saturner at mseco.com



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office 365


 Microsoft still doesn't get it; while people do want new features,
first
and foremost they want something that works day in and day out.

 And if it doesn't work, they want it FIXED. Not another version which
has a
new set of problems and requires more hardware to run. 

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office 365

I agree. :-) ...and it seems Safari, Chrome and Opera are not unhappy
either.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office 365

 >Everyone has been given their first warning with IE9; which poses the
question, "Which side of the 
technology divide are you on?"

ROTFLMAO.  Firefox is making huge gains in the browser war because
Microsoft
has refused to allow XP 
users to use the latest IE version.  Microsoft claims that without the
"latest technology" their 
browser cannot be as good as it needs to be.  Of course MS is trying to
sell
Windows 7 into the XP 
crowd.

Notice FireFox works just fine with the XP crowd.

 >which poses the question, "Which side of the technology divide are you
on?"

Uhh.. the Firefox side.  ;)  I pretty much have no use for IE unless I
hit a
site that I absolutely 
have to use and that site refuses to work with Firefox.  And guess what,
with Firefox winning the 
browser war, more and more sites are dropping their "IE only" crapola.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

On 3/24/2011 2:14 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> I suspect that Microsoft will be become more resolute in it edict to
move
> its customers along into the acceptance of the new technology and
> subsequently the purchase of its' new products. MS does not make good
money
> supporting old technologies... Everyone has been given their first
warning
> with IE9; which poses the question, "Which side of the technology
divide
are
> you on?"
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office 365
>
> They are not forcing me towards anything, they are forcing me *away*
from
> Access as a FE
> for anything other than simple reporting.
>
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