[AccessD] Windows 8

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Mon Nov 28 21:24:16 CST 2011


Perhaps you are onto something, Darryl. And perhaps Microsoft is merely trying to target corporate in the hopes they will turn away from iPads and Android tablets in favour of the familiar. But it's not very adventuresome of them, you have to admit.

- Hans



On 2011-11-28, at 6:02 PM, Darryl Collins wrote:

> Yeah, I see them as two totally different markets.  Many folks love and buy apple products as they don't have to worry about tweaking anything to make things function. This comes at a cost of course (both money and function), but for many consumers they either don't know about the costs or more likely care.
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> I guess it is part of a product maturing in some ways.  Back in the 60's when you purchased a car it was quite normal for you to do a lot of the maintenance yourself.  The car would even come with a full workshop manual and often some basic tool kits as well.
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> Compare that to these days were most folks call roadside assist to change a tyre and would never look under the bonnet - ever.  I see the iThings a bit like that.  Most folks don't care about the loss of flexibility or even creating stuff on the PC. They just want to access media, browse the web and get info via apps etc.  And for the that the iPad is brilliant.  Andriod is more flexible, but people don't want choices, they want something that works without any intervention from them.
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> The only way that Microsoft can produce an iPad killer is if they manage to somehow completely bridge the gap between different types of users with an intuitive UI. I am pleasantly surprised to see how much my own non-technical father has taken to his iPad. He thinks its brilliant and now he's hooked using it all the time for Skype, emailing, viewing family photos and reading the news etc, but now and again he still asks me how something is done rather than experimenting himself. Not as much with a normal desktop computer and maybe this is really due to the conditioning that comes with decades of using Windows on the desktop, but even I can see there are still some rough edges on (even) the iPad that make it so it isn't always evident what button to press or what the result of your interaction will be.
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> With Android, this is even worse.
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> If Microsoft can somehow manage to create a UI interface where any type of user can feel completely natural using it, then Microsoft may in fact have an iPad killer. My feeling is that they won't be able to. As far as I am aware (and please correct me if I am wrong), they are only just making it more complicated by laying the Metro UI on top of a regular Windows desktop. And, if they can't, well, I cannot see how they can possibly be any sort of "something"-killer, unless they compete for the sub-$200 market undercutting the Kindle Fire (which unlikely, given hardware requirements for Windows).
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> I'm not sure this is what regular consumers want and that this is just more or less the same as Microsofts previously failed tablet offerings prior to the iPad.
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> We shall see how things play out.
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> - Hans
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> On 2011-11-28, at 4:28 PM, Mark Simms wrote:
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>> Re: "Windows 8 on a tablet will be an iPad killer"
>> 
>> Boy, I've been waiting for that statement for YEARS.
>> It might even force me to stay back in technology vs. doing that 
>> "other venture"...
>> which of course is somewhat dark and clandestine.
>> 
>> On the other hand, maybe I'll do both !
>> Now the biggie: Can Balmer and Company "do things right" here.
>> His track record is not that good.
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