jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue Sep 6 05:53:18 CDT 2011
>Server 2003 is missing some tsql syntax I meant to say TSQL 2000 I do agree with Arthur however, you would be well served to just go with 2008. 2000 is very old. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com On 9/6/2011 6:29 AM, jwcolby wrote: > That'll work. SQL Server 2003 is missing some tsql syntax that was added later but if you don't need > that then you will not miss it. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > On 9/6/2011 1:42 AM, Stephen Bond wrote: >> So, John, would the following scenario still fly? ... as far as getting out of the shallow end, I >> could install the 2000 version on my Win7 box. No cost so far. I have a good beginner's knowledge >> of 2000 from much 'playing around' and lots of documentation on hand including the MS training >> curriculum and a good SP textbook. Use this to do serious work converting the customer's queries >> to SPs, getting me up to speed for the day the several gigs of data (and growing each month - it >> is a milk production system feeding into genetic analysis) needs the customer to buy a bigger >> engine to process. At which point I get serious, upgrade myself to Express or bigger, and the >> customer to whatever he can afford .......... >> >> And I forget the WinXP box, 2000 is on it, but never used for anything in anger, just a little >> toybox for me to play like I knew what I was doing. >> >> Or am I totally wasting my time with 2000 on any computer? >> >> And I amend the PS ... long learning curve is OK (I've got 20 years right?), but big financial >> outlay not. >> >> Stephen Bond >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf >> Of jwcolby >> Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011 8:46 a.m. >> To: Stephen >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Server advice >> >> Stephen, >> >> > I have a fully licensed 2000 Standard edition (acquired with an Action Pack in the days when MS >> New Zealand charged a one-time fee for Action Packs) on a 10-year-old WinXP box (¾GB) >> >> Way under powered. It will run (barely) but you won't be happy. >> >> SQL Server of any kind is a somewhat major learning curve. You can just set up and go but then... >> >> The express version is quite powerful for what it is but it has major limitations such as a single >> core and a gig of ram. I have discovered that if you are hitting the limits of Access then you may >> already be at the limits of express. It will be fine for getting in the water so to speak but it is >> missing stuff. >> >> I thought I was going to use it for a client of mine but when I looked closely it just wasn't >> powerful enough. OTOH my client has nursed his access system way beyond reason and now has 25 users >> and around 4-5 gigs of data. We are now looking at a pretty expensive upgrade to full on SQL >> Server. Once you do a new server (hardware) with 25 seats on the OS and 25 seats on SQL Server you >> are looking at> $10K, and probably closer to $15K. That said, you then have power to take you >> through the next 5-10 years. >> >> > PS - I'm a bit like Arthur (same age and increasingly pursuing other interests), so we're not >> talking long-term large commitments here (financial or long learning curve). >> >> Uhh... this just means that you only have 20 years of work life left right? ;) >> >> John W. Colby >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> On 9/5/2011 3:54 PM, Stephen Bond wrote: >>> After mucking around on the fringes for too long I am ready to make a more committed leap into >>> SQL Server. I can foresee a customer needing to upgrade their Access back end within the next six >>> months to a year and want to get 'expertly' ahead<vbg>. >>> I have a fully licenced 2000 Standard edition (acquired with an Action Pack in the days when MS >>> New Zealand charged a one-time fee for Action Packs) on a 10-year-old WinXP box (¾GB) and I am >>> comfortable with this at the 'play' level. >>> >>> On a year-old Windows 7 box with 4GB, my question concerns which tool to use, the above ... or >>> SQL Server 2008 R2 Express? The downsides that I can see of Express 2008 would be (a) another >>> learning curve (b) the nagging feeling that I remember something about these less-than-complete >>> SQL Server implementations that is not good - like inability to do important development stuff >>> that is available in the full-blown models. This, iirc, was true for one of MS's implementations, >>> long ago. The upside is that I make the enormous leap into another century. But wait, there's got >>> to be more (to both -ve and +ve). >>> >>> Any feedback gratefully received. >>> >>> Stephen Bond >>> >>> PS - I'm a bit like Arthur (same age and increasingly pursuing other interests), so we're not >>> talking long-term large commitments here (financial or long learning curve). >>>