[AccessD] OT: Three routers, weird problems

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Mon Feb 20 15:06:29 CST 2012


 > You didn't mention this, but does your laptop have its wireless capability enabled? If so, then 
that MIGHT be overriding the wired connection. That would explain why it's connected to C2Db3. Just 
a WAG.

That might be it.  It was enabled until I turned it off

 > Another WAG: Have you considered setting the IP address for the two access points ABOVE the base 
router range? That is, instead of 192.168.122.2, how about 192.168.122.250?

No I haven't ever done that.  I always just put them hard coded, sequential to the Ip for the first 
router, and that just so I could identify them easily by their IP for going in to the setup.  I 
wanted to just "know where they are".

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 2/20/2012 3:46 PM, Steve Erbach wrote:
> John,
>
> You didn't mention this, but does your laptop have its wireless capability
> enabled? If so, then that MIGHT be overriding the wired connection. That
> would explain why it's connected to C2Db3. Just a WAG.
>
> Another WAG: Have you considered setting the IP address for the two access
> points ABOVE the base router range? That is, instead of 192.168.122.2, how
> about 192.168.122.250?
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:41 AM, jwcolby<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>wrote:
>
>> I have a SOHO.  Yesterday the cable company came in to replace the cable
>> modem and replaced it with an integrated modem / router / wireless.  I like
>> it!  It has guest networks and so forth, very modern.
>>
>> I use 192.168.122.1 as that base router's IP and the range 10-100 as the
>> addresses dished out to computers, and I set all that up, turned on
>> encryption, set  the SSID to C2Db1, all the typical setup stuff.
>>
>> I have a pair of wrt54gs routers / wireless.  I have in the past put them
>> on the network as access points on either end of the house to allow better
>> wireless access around the house.   I know how to turn off DHCP server in
>> the access points, set the IP of the access point router to a fixed
>> address, for which I use 192.168.122.2 / .3 etc.  I set the SSID to unique
>> values C2Db2 and C2Db3 so I can identify each one for connecting.  So I set
>> up two of these "access points" using two wrt54gs routers with the wan /
>> DHCP turned off.  In point of fact, now that I think of it, I do not know
>> how to specifically "turn off" the WAN, I just don't use it, connecting all
>> cables to the switch side of the device.
>>
>> So now comes the strange thing.
>>
>> I rebooted and my laptop's wired NIC says it is connecting to the Local
>> Area Connection C2Db3.  That should not be possible, since C2Db3 is not the
>> DHCP server.  C2Db3 is one of the WRT54GS routers which is now only a
>> switch and wireless access point.  The laptop does not connect to C2Db3
>> (directly)  though C2Db3 is plugged into the same gigabit switch as the
>> laptop (up in my office).
>>
>> The connection does work, and it gets out to the internet, it is just
>> confusing to me.  I expected that all of my computers with wired
>> connections to switches would show C2Db1 as the network, and any wireless
>> NECS would show the name of the wireless access point that they came in
>> under.
>>
>> Just as an aside, the "show network map" fails miserably and immediately.
>>   All of my switches are dumb (unmanaged) so I was really only expecting
>> perhaps a basic picture of the network, but nope, nothing at all except an
>> error message.
>>
>> Just as an aside, I have an 8 port gigabit in my office on the second
>> floor at one end of the house, connected to a 4 port gigabit switch in the
>> basement at the center of the house.  That 4 port is connected to the new
>> cable modem / router to get at the internet, and is also connected to an 8
>> port gigabit switch at the other end of the house (relative to my office).
>>   I recently "wired the house" (myself) putting boxes in the walls of many
>> of the rooms and running physical cables to the closest switches.  It would
>> have been nice to just have a 24 port switch and run cables all the way to
>> that switch but that was not to be.
>>
>> Anyhoo, I was wondering what the heck the C2Db3 actually means in terms of
>> what my laptop thinks it is doing / connecting to with it's wired NIC.
>>
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