[AccessD] Svar: What to do? (was: Just Another Old Boys Club)

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Wed Jul 11 10:17:10 CDT 2012


LOL, and all the "old boys" are another 2 years older.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it


On 7/11/2012 9:14 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
>
> The "No messages for 2 days" post reminded me of this thread 2 years ago.
> Since then nothing has changed.
>
> The main issue I see, is that mail lists are quite bad at attracting new members. You cannot just drop in and see what's going on, nor can you attach screenshots or code files, you can't even link to a message except if you are able to find it in the archive.
>
> The forum-style seems to me to be answer though I'm aware of the weak sides. First of all some moderator time to keep spam and trolls out. Also the cost to run it which forces some to include adds.
>
> However, except for these thoughts, I have no "solution".
> What do you think?
>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 08-07-10 23:56 >>>
> Tony, I have to agree with Gary here.  There has been a lot of chit chat
> on here, because the list has gotten much less help requests.  Not that
> we don't get any.  We do.  I must admit I don't answer every question
> posted on here, but that's not the intent of the list anyways.  I do
> answer ones that I can readily answer.  Questions about Access 2007 and
> soon 2010 are just not ones I can personally deal with, simply because I
> don't use those.  I answer SQL stuff still, and the rare VBA question,
> because I am still familiar with such things.
>
> But Access is dying.  I think we all realize that.  It's like if we were
> a Windows 9x forum...by now, the questions would have stopped flowing
> completely. Access has changed, and new things have come to pass which
> have sidelined mainstream Access development.  Access is a wonderful
> tool, but it has seen it's better days.
>
> Maybe Access will spark again, who knows.
>
> I'm posting this, however, to ask what you think we should do
> differently?  Keep the list quiet, and discuss nothing but Access?  That
> would just let the list die off right now.  We've debated things left
> and right, not a lot to discuss anymore, we can only field the questions
> that are asked, and in the middle of that, chit chat about other
> technologies.
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 3:55 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Just ANother Old Boys Club
>
> My Friend
> You insult me.
> This is no longer a user group, no matter what you have to say.  This
> was  one of the most vibrant groups I have ever dealt with. A community
> willing to express their opions on every topic. It has gotten to be just
>
> the old boys,  disussing topics of no relevance to ACCESS programmng.  I
>
> think it is indicating a demise of the  Access community.
>
>
> Gary Kjos wrote:
>
>> And most of us have kind of moved on from straight Access Development
>> like we did years ago. But we do still answer them when they are asked
>> most of the time. You might have to wait a day or two sometimes.
>>
>> I kind of do take exception to your attempt to put some guilt on list
>> members for not doing..... not sure what.
>>
>> I have a real job. I have a life. I give my time to the list as an
>> administrator. I answer the questions when I can. I'm not sure what
>> more you expect Tony. I think the number of new users of Access is
>> probably a lot less than it used to be, especially as Excel has had
>> it's limits raised over the most recent releases. Used to be that
>> people were forced to use Access for things when they hit the 65K row
>> limit in an Excel file. Now that bar is raised over a million rows so
>> the user community sticks with Excel for those things.
>>
>> Sorry you feel like we aren't living up to your expectations but we
>> are doing what we can.
>>
>>
>> GK
>




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