Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Jul 19 13:11:54 CDT 2012
Hi John: Actually you can do anything with a browser but it just takes a whole different way of thinking. Many awesome database systems have been designed to run through the web and they support thousands of users quickly and efficiently. Check out all the banks, insurance companies and every franchises POS system...they are all web based...with very minor exceptions like the hybrids which are rapidly disappearing. I have built a couple of proprietary, in-house, intranet browser interface applications. They are not nearly as pretty as I could make today. All you need is a server with a web server installed like IIS or Apache. (I have used Apache a few times but am hardly more than a novice.) Fortunately, the price is right for either. I have recently been approached to write a web based application that has the same appearance and feel of an Access DB application. It will take about a year but the new client pays me a monthly amount so there is no super rush...but it is very possible. In fact I can add features that Access could never supply or just simple features that would take a good VB programmer a week to write but on a web site would take just minutes to install. There is of course years of code that have re-written and abandoned. In the web-based field there are some really incredible innovations going on and here is just something to wet your appetite with the development of HTML5. http://html5demos.com/ (Unfortunately, for the most part IE has refused to play but really who cares anymore?) Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:59 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] What's New in Access 2013? I put the entire Access FE in a runtime on the client's computer, hitting SQL Server over the web as the back end. Of course it doesn't run in a browser and so there are install issues but browsers reaaaaally suck for more than casual stuff. John W. Colby Colby Consulting Reality is what refuses to go away when you do not believe in it On 7/19/2012 10:20 AM, Jim Dettman wrote: > Mark, > > If you look at 2010 and the macro editor, it looks like it is based on an > XML file, but nothing's been documented, so that's pure conjecture on my > part. > > Frankly, if a converter was possible, I would have thought that would have > shown up in 2010, but I guess they were too focused on just getting the web > part right without having enough time to worry about getting existing apps > ported (2007 was a pre-beta attempt at the web as far as I'm concerned). > > But I'm not even sure existing apps getting ported is a priority or even > feasible. As we've discussed here, the web works differently then a > standard desktop app. Even within A2010, there are fundamental differences > between a web and standard DB, so would a converter even be worth it since > most of the code may no longer apply? Most likely not. > > Think anyone what wants to take an existing app to the web with Access is > going to be in for a re-write and with significant loss in functionality. > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:05 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] What's New in Access 2013? > > Is a conversion tool a feasible solution ? > If the new scripting language is all GUI-driven, then this would not be > possible..... > Unless the internals of the new scripting language is made available. > Doubtful. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd- >> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman >> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:35 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] What's New in Access 2013? >> >> >> Access is clearly moving to the web and VBA is not going with it... >> >> Jim. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 09:20 AM >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Subject: [AccessD] What's New in Access 2013? >> >> Hi all >> >> Not much except for the cleaner Metro styled UI: >> >> <quote> >> In a word, apps. >>> /quote> >> >> http://officepreview.microsoft.com/en-us/support/what-s-new-in-access- >> 2013-H >> A102809500.aspx >> >> These apps are macro driven (ouch!) and requires SharePoint or Office >> 365 as >> the "backend" (= no database but "lists" only). >> >> Would have loved a C#A! >> >> /gustav >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com