[AccessD] Bind forms to ADO recordset

I understand what you are talking about but this specific scenario is about the subset of child 
records that belong to the parent record.  A claim form (parent) and all the diary records child 
records / subform) for that claim.  All the expense records for that claim.  All the memo records 
for that claim.  All the payment records for that claim.

Etc.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

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On 3/8/2012 12:35 AM, Darryl Collins wrote:
> One way of doing the pre-processing without any coding etc is to use views in SQL server and refer to them rather than the underlying table.
>
> Say you have a very large dataset - use views to break it into logic segments that you commonly use (Say one set of views x Fin Year, Another set x State, or whatever).  That way you can your database behave nice and fast for the user.  For example if they are looking for all sales data in the date range of 1-March-2011 to 30-Jul-2011, you can then search only the view that has that range, rather than the whole darn table.  You can even break it down further to suit your pre-defined queries.  You can also get smart and use union to join up just the views you need if things wrap over.
>
> Using this approach can speed things up a lot as the volume of data to search thru is already limited.
>
> Cheers
> Darryl
>
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> John:
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> Do not bind, especially that many records...set your SP to pull only the records needed or pull the records in groups by record number grouping...say record 1 to 1000, 1001 to 2000 and so on. Pulling 700,000 records is insanity...that is what MS SQL was created for. Pre-process first.
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> Jim
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> It is my understanding that binding a form to an ADO recordset allows a SQL statement to be "passed through" to SQL Server for very efficient processing, for example for sorting or selecting on the server.
>
> My question is, how do I prevent up front inefficiency in subforms.  We know that Access uses Link Child / Master field properties to "narrow down" a set of records from the entire table to just matching records.  What happens if I bind the subform to an ADO recordset?
> I can tell you from
> testing it that it is slower than sin!
>
> It does appear to pull the entire table into the sub form, and then perform the filtering.
>
> I was using a sql statement basically "SELECT * FROM TblXYZ" which is of course unfiltered in any manner.  The specific table I am trying to pull data from has about 700K records.  Yikes!
>
> Is anyone out there binding subforms to ADO recordsets and if so what is the trick?  The only way I am making it work is to filter the subform using the PK of the main form in a dynamic sql statement, and essentially rebuilding the recordset in OnCurrent of the main form.
> Hardly pretty.
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