[AccessD] Bind forms to ADO recordset

David McAfee davidmcafee at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 12:42:07 CST 2012


Stored procedures can do this. (Warning Aircode:)

me.sbfrmDiary.recordsource = "stpDiaryRecord " & me.parentID
me.sbfrmExpenses.recordsource = "stpExpensesByParentID " & me.parentID


On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:06 AM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> I understand what you are talking about but this specific scenario is
> about the subset of child records that belong to the parent record.  A
> claim form (parent) and all the diary records child records / subform) for
> that claim.  All the expense records for that claim.  All the memo records
> for that claim.  All the payment records for that claim.
>
> Etc.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
> On 3/8/2012 12:35 AM, Darryl Collins wrote:
>
>> One way of doing the pre-processing without any coding etc is to use
>> views in SQL server and refer to them rather than the underlying table.
>>
>> Say you have a very large dataset - use views to break it into logic
>> segments that you commonly use (Say one set of views x Fin Year, Another
>> set x State, or whatever).  That way you can your database behave nice and
>> fast for the user.  For example if they are looking for all sales data in
>> the date range of 1-March-2011 to 30-Jul-2011, you can then search only the
>> view that has that range, rather than the whole darn table.  You can even
>> break it down further to suit your pre-defined queries.  You can also get
>> smart and use union to join up just the views you need if things wrap over.
>>
>> Using this approach can speed things up a lot as the volume of data to
>> search thru is already limited.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Darryl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>[mailto:
>> accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>> Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2012 2:59 PM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Bind forms to ADO recordset
>>
>> John:
>>
>> Do not bind, especially that many records...set your SP to pull only the
>> records needed or pull the records in groups by record number
>> grouping...say record 1 to 1000, 1001 to 2000 and so on. Pulling 700,000
>> records is insanity...that is what MS SQL was created for. Pre-process
>> first.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>]
>> On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:51 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Bind forms to ADO recordset
>>
>> It is my understanding that binding a form to an ADO recordset allows a
>> SQL statement to be "passed through" to SQL Server for very efficient
>> processing, for example for sorting or selecting on the server.
>>
>> My question is, how do I prevent up front inefficiency in subforms.  We
>> know that Access uses Link Child / Master field properties to "narrow down"
>> a set of records from the entire table to just matching records.  What
>> happens if I bind the subform to an ADO recordset?
>> I can tell you from
>> testing it that it is slower than sin!
>>
>> It does appear to pull the entire table into the sub form, and then
>> perform the filtering.
>>
>> I was using a sql statement basically "SELECT * FROM TblXYZ" which is of
>> course unfiltered in any manner.  The specific table I am trying to pull
>> data from has about 700K records.  Yikes!
>>
>> Is anyone out there binding subforms to ADO recordsets and if so what is
>> the trick?  The only way I am making it work is to filter the subform using
>> the PK of the main form in a dynamic sql statement, and essentially
>> rebuilding the recordset in OnCurrent of the main form.
>> Hardly pretty.
>>
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