Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Mon Sep 17 18:17:38 CDT 2012
Hi Shamil: HTML 5 is not some high speed development engine, it is more like VB or VBA and it is built just for FE presentations. If you interested in super high performance a programmer should start looking at Java, at the least and most likely C or C++. HTML 5 is just like MS Access which is a simplified database presentation manager...if the client wants super high performance then they have to be willing to anti-up and have a dedicated programmer (or two, or three) on the pay-roll. It is all a matter of cost versus required performance. That said, MS Access is perfectly acceptable for small to medium databases. It speed of development is impossible to match if you plan to "roll your own". HTML 5 is the same thing. OTOH, the performance that a good programmer can get of Access or even HTML 5 is quite remarkable. In addition, there are so many tools, code samples and add-ins out there for MS Access and HTML 5 that a good hacker can make a client smile in less than a week. Browsers are also increasing their speed exponentially. If you haven't seen it before, here is a demo of a first-person shooter game developed on the latest version of FF using HTML 5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYmxPdtsl4&feature=player_embedded Then there is the enhanced V8 engine from Chrome. The engine is so fast that you can actually build an event driven multi-user webserver BE from it and its performance matches or surpasses anything out there. Check out Node.js which will allow a JavaScript writer to extend their skill sets right to the BE. http://nodejs.org/ There are a number of tutorials on the subject on how to connect to various databases and so on. In summary, a form in Access and HTML 5 can be built in minutes...lets see someone build the same form, with the same function and appearance, in native code, in minutes. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:08 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] HTML5 mobile-friendly web sites vs. native mobile apps - Was:Re: Bootcamp or Paralells - was RE: OT: iPhone/iPaddevelopment on an MS Windows PC - noway? Hi Jim -- Thank you for your remark on GeoLocation via HTML5 - I was not aware about that... <<< The truth is who would ever build a GPS, OCR or even voice translation system just for desktop installation? Those days are gone and now support of management is done through the browser. >>> I didn't mean desktop - I meant mobile - smartphones and tablets and whatever else mobile widely used gadgets will appear in the (near) future: Quoting Marc Zuckerberg: "Our Biggest Mistake Was Betting Too Much On HTML5" see: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/11/mark-zuckerberg-our-biggest-mistake-wi th-mobile-was-betting-too-much-on-html5/ "Over the next 3-5 years the question that's on everyone's mind is going to be how well we do with mobile" see: http://mashable.com/2012/09/11/mark-zuckerberg-post-ipo-interview/ etc. The mainstream tendency AFAIS is that more and more native mobile apps appear even when very useful HTML(5) originals already exist, e.g. I'm using now HTML(5) desktop client to post to AccessD, I'm using HTML5 mobile-friendly version of the same client to read AccessD e-mail while on-the-go, there was first version of that mobile-friendly HTML5 client, which I liked a lot, then they (Mail.ru) released another HTML5 mobile version, which I disliked (they still keep old version alive and I'm using it), and now they have got released a native WinPhone 7.5 mail client, which looks not bad. What for they do that if HTML5 web apps are good, mobile-friendly and useful? Thank you. -- Shamil Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:28 -0700 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: >Hi Shamil: > > I think I have misunderstood you but... > > Of course browsers have access to GPS...look no further than Google maps > (and the other new startups like bing and apple's new offering) Both Apple > and Google offer, far beyond just voice translation but full on-line help > via voice control...and the same with OCR...and VoIP. A client is never > going to pay for some programmer to develop in these diciplines when a > simple mashup of existing and easy to access components can be acquire via > the browser. > > These browsers are basically two componenets, FE and BE supported by a the > currently most reliable communications system ever built. The differences > between the FE and BE continues fade back and forth. > > The truth is who would ever build a GPS, OCR or even voice translation > system just for desktop installation? Those days are gone and now support of > management is done through the browser. > > Jim ><<< skipped >>> -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com