Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Wed Sep 19 20:15:32 CDT 2012
Hi Robert: You have lived a very sheltered life. Most fortune 500 companies use OS Linux for starts, the three most popular webservers are Apache, number one, Nginx, number two and third IIS. When it comes to programming the top 31 languages are OSS and yes even C# (Mono and Grasshopper) though it is in seventh place behind C, Java, C++, PHP, JavaScript and Python. All that would be needed is a good OS IDE and C# could be number one...naaahhh but maybe to number five? Here is a link to one of the many excellent IDEs which will have versions for all major language: http://vimeo.com/40281991 within a couple of years (OSS of course) Virtually all the main players in the computer industry especially in the new startups use OSS products like Google, Facebook, Dropbox, Amazon, IBM and on and on. Most SmartPhones and Pad use Android/Java; 68 percent at last check and after iOS there is still a few percentage left for others. I for one, have set up many offices (35+ years in business before PCs and before Microsoft), some with MS Office and some recently with LibraOffice and all the clients are very happy. As for comparing MS Access with to Open office series, it appears that MS is doing a pretty good job of slowly breaking their product so it will match. ;-( There are dozens of OS database products out there of every type and capability so if you are going longterm why become trapped to single offering with brittle and proprietary standards that are not compatible with the rest of the industry. Microsoft is one of the founding members of W3C industry standards though looking at their internet offerings and compatibilty matching you might not think so. I know many people working in computer industry who make very comfortable livings and they never use Microsoft products. I for one like Microsoft products and will continue to use more of their products but they are hardly the be all or end all. It is a very very big non-MS world out there and opportunities abound everywhere. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Stewart Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:55 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] HTML5 mobile-friendly web sites vs. native Jim, I have made my living doing MS based applications for the last 20 years or so. Before that, I was in a totally different career, wholesale agriculture. I will not do OPEN source stuff. I know of no large corporations that are using it. I do not see job openings for PostgreSql developers for example. So, I will stick with MS based technologies. I am pissed about Silverlight because they finally got web development right with it. I really did not care if it ran under a Mac or an iPad or not. They could go a buy a real computer if they wanted to use a site I built. And, I still feel that way about it. ASP.net is a kludge. It is like developing with a hammer and chisel. I guess that I am stubborn. But then again, I can be. I work at a full time job as a DBA. I teach MS development at a local user group once a month, www.dbguidesign.com. I refuse to use Javascript. HTML is ok if you have to use ASP.net. If browsers actually supported HTML5, that might be even better. For those of you that are interested, we do a GoToMeeting each month for the meeting also. If you want to be emailed about it, let me know and I will add you to the group email list. I love WPF. I think of it as MS Access on steroids. You can do so much with it. And if you look at it like that, you can go far with it. One of the guys that attends the group I teach has even built a code generator that will build the screens and code behind for you based on pointing his generator to a table in a database. When you dig into it. It is extremely powerful and can be made very user friendly to the end user. After the first of the year, I am going to start a series on Win 8 development. And there are a lot of "standards" to be followed there. And, finally as a comparison of "open standards" products, would you run your business with Open Office? It is pretty much a joke for serious work. Would you compare it's database product to MS Access and develop in it? I don't think so. Robert L. Stewart Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand. --Martin Fowler www.WeBeDb.com www.DBGUIDesign.com www.RLStewartPhotography.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com