Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Thu Sep 20 12:08:16 CDT 2012
HI David -- Yes! (Trying to find time to get through this SPA course and some others...) Thank you. -- Shamil Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:02:24 -0700 от David McAfee <davidmcafee at gmail.com>: > > > > >I was just going to bring up Pluralsight. > > I am also learning HTML5, JqueryMobile, Knockout... too. > > There's a great SPA tutorial at: >http://pluralsight.com/training/Courses/TableOfContents/spa > > > David > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote: > > > Yes, Dreamspark Microsoft program works for students here too: > > > > http://www.dreamspark.ru/access.aspx > > > > and it gives also free access to Pluralsight online courses - I have > > recently got paid subscription for that courses and I like them a lot. > > > > And MS Office 2010 for students costs about USD100 here. > > > > Thank you. > > > > -- Shamil > > > > > > Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:27:22 -0700 от Doug Steele <dbdoug at gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Microsoft has a program called Dreamspark which gives free versions of > > > > > software including Visual Studio, Expression Studio, Windows and Sql Server > > > > > to anyone with a university email address. My daughter in law used it last > > > > > year. I just checked and it appears to be current. > > > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Shamil: > > > > > > > > > > > > Right now, the best IDE for C# is Microsoft's offering. > > > > > > > > > > > > The prices are pretty high; from 1K for entrance level package and up to > > 5K > > > > > > for the full-blown enterprise version. The packages may be well worth it > > > > > > but > > > > > > when getting any of them you are truly committed. If MS decides not to > > > > > > allow > > > > > > their package results to be compatible with the rest of the industry > > then a > > > > > > developer may find themselves on a dead-end street or/and rebuilding the > > > > > > resultant forms by hand and you are back to square one wondering why you > > > > > > have been buying all these upgrades every year. > > > > > > > > > > > > An aside from my personal observations: The current problem with the > > > > > > industry, as far as Microsoft is related, is that for every young student > > > > > > graduating from university with degrees in computer science maybe only > > one > > > > > > in thirty (50, more?...) is equiped to work with MS products. Young geeks > > > > > > have no money, so they learn programming and development on cheap and > > free > > > > > > products and that continues right through university as universities have > > > > > > no > > > > > > money either. The best students come out knowing how to program in C, > > PHP, > > > > > > Java, Ruby, Python, databases like MySQL, Postgress and Cassandra, on > > > > > > platforms like Linux and Unix and knowledge of only how to build web > > > > > > applications... > > > > > > > > > > > > Microsoft has stopped giving free introduction, training programs and > > > > > > access > > > > > > to their beta application at the universities. This is a problem for > > > > > > Microsoft if they want to be anything more than just sellers of their > > > > > > office > > > > > > products and the trainer of integrators, they are going to have to, > > again, > > > > > > be a lot more pro-active...just look at their competition. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > ><<< skipped >>> > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >