Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Sep 20 14:22:04 CDT 2012
That's good news... the program came out about five years ago and have not heard anything about it since. Got any links. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:27 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Light Table IDE (Vimeo.com) - Was:Re: HTML5 mobile-friendly web sites vs. native Microsoft has a program called Dreamspark which gives free versions of software including Visual Studio, Expression Studio, Windows and Sql Server to anyone with a university email address. My daughter in law used it last year. I just checked and it appears to be current. Doug On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Shamil: > > Right now, the best IDE for C# is Microsoft's offering. > > The prices are pretty high; from 1K for entrance level package and up to 5K > for the full-blown enterprise version. The packages may be well worth it > but > when getting any of them you are truly committed. If MS decides not to > allow > their package results to be compatible with the rest of the industry then a > developer may find themselves on a dead-end street or/and rebuilding the > resultant forms by hand and you are back to square one wondering why you > have been buying all these upgrades every year. > > An aside from my personal observations: The current problem with the > industry, as far as Microsoft is related, is that for every young student > graduating from university with degrees in computer science maybe only one > in thirty (50, more?...) is equiped to work with MS products. Young geeks > have no money, so they learn programming and development on cheap and free > products and that continues right through university as universities have > no > money either. The best students come out knowing how to program in C, PHP, > Java, Ruby, Python, databases like MySQL, Postgress and Cassandra, on > platforms like Linux and Unix and knowledge of only how to build web > applications... > > Microsoft has stopped giving free introduction, training programs and > access > to their beta application at the universities. This is a problem for > Microsoft if they want to be anything more than just sellers of their > office > products and the trainer of integrators, they are going to have to, again, > be a lot more pro-active...just look at their competition. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov > Shamil > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:55 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] Light Table IDE (Vimeo.com) - Was:Re: HTML5 > mobile-friendly web sites vs. native > > Hi Jim -- > > <<< > Here is a link to one of the many excellent IDEs which will have versions > for all major > language: http://vimeo.com/40281991 within a couple of years (OSS of > course) > >>> > Do you mean the Light Table IDE? Yes, AFAIS it promise to be a great tool > to > learn dynamic/scripting languages as JavaScript, Clojure, Python, > HTML(5)/CSS(3) etc. > AFAIU it's planned the first version of Light Table to be released next > year May > ( > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ibdknox/light-table?ref=NewsApr2612&utm > _campaign=Apr26&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter). > > Waiting for that Light Table IDE release what other simpler (IDE) tools > one can use to get instant interpretation/execution of the code they write? > I must note I wanted to write a simple private tool having a couple of > windows with one to type code into and another one to instantly > interpret/execute typed code... > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > P.S. I'd expect similar to Light Table IDE "instant > interpretation/debugging" features will appear in the next release of MS > Visual Studio - 2014? - it appears to the one of the most demanded IDE > features for nowadays real life application development... > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com