[AccessD] Light Table IDE (Vimeo.com) - Was:Re: HTML5 mobile-friendly web sites vs. native

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Sep 20 14:22:04 CDT 2012


That's good news... the program came out about five years ago and have not
heard anything about it since. Got any links.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Light Table IDE (Vimeo.com) - Was:Re: HTML5
mobile-friendly web sites vs. native

Microsoft has a program called Dreamspark which gives free versions of
software including Visual Studio, Expression Studio, Windows and Sql Server
to anyone with a university email address.  My daughter in law used it last
year. I just checked and it appears to be current.

Doug

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Shamil:
>
> Right now, the best IDE for C# is Microsoft's offering.
>
> The prices are pretty high; from 1K for entrance level package and up to
5K
> for the full-blown enterprise version. The packages may be well worth it
> but
> when getting any of them you are truly committed. If MS decides not to
> allow
> their package results to be compatible with the rest of the industry then
a
> developer may find themselves on a dead-end street or/and rebuilding the
> resultant forms by hand and you are back to square one wondering why you
> have been buying all these upgrades every year.
>
> An aside from my personal observations: The current problem with the
> industry, as far as Microsoft is related, is that for every young student
> graduating from university with degrees in computer science maybe only one
> in thirty (50, more?...) is equiped to work with MS products. Young geeks
> have no money, so they learn programming and development on cheap and free
> products and that continues right through university as universities have
> no
> money either. The best students come out knowing how to program in C, PHP,
> Java, Ruby, Python, databases like MySQL, Postgress and Cassandra, on
> platforms like Linux and Unix and knowledge of only how to build web
> applications...
>
> Microsoft has stopped giving free introduction, training programs and
> access
> to their beta application at the universities. This is a problem for
> Microsoft if they want to be anything more than just sellers of their
> office
> products and the trainer of integrators, they are going to have to, again,
> be a lot more pro-active...just look at their competition.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov
> Shamil
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Light Table IDE (Vimeo.com) - Was:Re: HTML5
> mobile-friendly web sites vs. native
>
> Hi Jim --
>
> <<<
> Here is a link to one of the many excellent IDEs which will have versions
> for all major
> language: http://vimeo.com/40281991 within a couple of years (OSS of
> course)
> >>>
> Do you mean the Light Table IDE? Yes, AFAIS it promise to be a great tool
> to
> learn dynamic/scripting languages as JavaScript, Clojure, Python,
> HTML(5)/CSS(3) etc.
> AFAIU it's planned  the first version of Light Table to be released next
> year May
> (
>
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ibdknox/light-table?ref=NewsApr2612&utm
> _campaign=Apr26&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter).
>
> Waiting for that  Light Table IDE release what other  simpler (IDE) tools
> one can use to get instant interpretation/execution of the code they
write?
> I must note I wanted to write a simple private tool having a couple of
> windows with one to type code into and another one to instantly
> interpret/execute typed code...
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
> P.S. I'd expect similar to Light Table IDE "instant
> interpretation/debugging" features will appear in the next release of MS
> Visual Studio - 2014? - it appears to the one of the most demanded IDE
> features for nowadays real life application development...
>
>
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