[AccessD] New Approach

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Mon Mar 4 13:37:11 CST 2013


Hi Jim:

I do not think Microsoft will have an issues with them as they clearly state
that you should/must have a legal copy of Access per user. If the user does
not, it is not the fault of the site and it is not their responsibility to
police their clients. I seriously doubt whether Microsoft will ever follow
up with a law suit of any kind.

<< Actually, I posted a link a while ago with a posting from one of the two
partners and it revealed in detail how they actually did it. >>

Actually, I was the one that posted that link at least initially. The fact
the technology is so simple in reality that thousands of sites could be
designing their own Access (Office) sharing system, it would seem pointless
to attack a single site... the barn door has been open for years.

Jim

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 Last time I checked (and my info may be out of date), but it goes again the
EULA to run Office apps on anything other then Windows.

<<Well then ask yourself how did the fellow at
www.eqldata.com do it all? >>

 Actually, I posted a link a while ago with a posting from one of the two
partners and it revealed in detail how they actually did it.

 So far, Microsoft hasn't gone after them and since they've been in business
since 2009, probably don't have a legal leg to stand on (I know their aware
of them).

Jim. 

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:59 PM
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Hi Guys:

To add to your comments there are other methods that you can experiment
with.

I know what you are going to say but why not try a Linux distro? Linux is
definitely the rising star in the computer industry.
 
First, all you will need is a computer or one that you are fine with dual
booting. 4GB of RAM and 100GB hard drive is more than adequate especially if
you are going to be hosting multiple instances of various versions of MS
Access. For full terminal features like shareware you will need an extra LAN
card so you will have two.

My personal choice of Linux distro is Ubuntu 12.04 (there is a 13.x version
out there but too bleeding edge...) How to install it and how difficult is
it? It is like installing Windows but easier. http://www.ubuntu.com/download

You what the desktop version though there are very little (no) differences
other than cosmetic between desktop and server. They are both fully
multi-user and use the same kernel.

Second, once installed check to see if you have the latest version of Wine.
That is the Linux package that allows you to run Windows application. 
The latest versions:
http://www.noobslab.com/2012/06/install-wine-156-in-ubuntu-1204.html
Can it run MS Access? Here are the versions that it can run and be
installed:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12
You will have to do a little tinkering:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/156296/how-to-install-microsoft-office-2010-i
n-ubuntu-12-04 (Once installed it will run significantly faster than on a
similarly equipped Windows computer.)
       
Third, install a full terminal (thin client) capabilities. You will need to
add a number of users, how every many in the office or internet will be
using the MS Access and terminal a package. This is where the two LAN cards
become crucial and this is not for the faint of heart but it is no more
difficult than install a Windows server. There are a number of ways to
approach this but this decryption seems the simplest:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT/ and
http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-create-ubuntu-1104-x64-ltsp-server-32
bit-thin-clients
(This is as far as I got as my 30 GB Linux test machine ran out of hard
drive space (unrelated to this install) and I ran out of time but later in
the month this should all be up and running.)

So why would you do this? Well then ask yourself how did the fellow at
www.eqldata.com do it all? I posted a link to an browser page written by the
developer and his explanation is similar (same). He has built a very nice
interface with all the bells and whistles as well but on the cheap and for
your own business you can just roll your own and run your Access
applications indefinitely.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 8:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] New Approach

Dan,

 There are more choices then that...
<<snip>>

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