[AccessD] Alpha Anywhere

LOL, they know why.  Because the users ask for stuff from IT and... well... in a year or so...

So the user's have a job to do and so they do it themselves.

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 9/3/2013 12:53 PM, DJK (John) Robinson wrote:
> Hmm.  Has the company thought to ask themselves WHY these apps exist?  I guess not...
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W Colby
> Sent: 03 September 2013 14:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alpha Anywhere
>
>
> The company I am working for did an inventory and found something like 800 Access apps on employee's
> desktops.  They are trying hard to force the users to stop developing such things and then to
> migrate all of these things to a C# / Java app.
>
> John W. Colby
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
> On 9/3/2013 8:12 AM, Jim Dettman wrote:
>>     It's not that they cannot, it's they don't want to.
>>
>>     Microsoft has jumped ship in regards to the desktop and are looking
>> to leapfrog everyone by a few years. Their entire corporate strategy
>> and focus is aimed at the web and getting Office users onto a
>> subscription model because the software development cycle as we know it is no longer
>> sustainable.   They don't want anyone on the desktop any more with
>> applications.
>>
>>     The risk is that they may have jumped too far too quickly.  Not
>> everyone has broadband for example and their effort may fail for that
>> reason alone. The other biggie is security; not everyone is comfortable with everything
>> being in the cloud and having someone else in control of your data.   The
>> exposure of the government monitoring programs could not have come at
>> a worst time for them, as it proves beyond a doubt how data is no longer under
>> your control once off premise.   I think that more then anything is going to
>> give people pause about the use of cloud technologies.
>>
>>     But even without that, I think they under estimated the reluctance
>> of business moving into the cloud.  Unfortunately, I believe it's too late for
>> Access.   I really do think their turning it into nothing more then a front
>> end / power user tool that's web based.   Oh the desktop side will still be
>> around for a while, but I think it will stand as is and not change from this
>> point forward.   It's pretty obvious that the last three releases were
>> focused on nothing but the web.   It also seems pretty obvious that they are
>> focused on using macro's with web apps and will not bring anything
>> more powerful on board for coding.  They are also suggesting doing
>> reporting via Excel and that's the last functional piece they need to
>> round out web apps.
>>
>>    There maybe a small glimmer of hope though; they woke up a bit with
>> Windows 8 and have back tracked.  Maybe they'll do the same for the
>> desktop side again and make some improvements, or at least provide
>> some more power under the hood with web apps in order to get existing
>> DB's onto the web, but that seems like a long shot at this point.  Web
>> App's are just too much of a departure from the current desktop DB's.
>>
>>    And so many developers have already left the product.  By the time
>> we would see improvements, there may not be many of us left to use
>> them :(
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms
>> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 10:03 PM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alpha Anywhere
>>
>> Thanks Arthur -
>> it boggles the mind that neither MSFT nor Adobe with their near
>> infinite resources.... could come-up with a competitive offering ?
>>
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