John Bartow
jbartow at winhaven.net
Tue Mar 4 22:56:45 CST 2014
Corporate buyers shouldn't be getting Windows 8 preinstalled. I haven't sold a business computer with it yet. So unless corporations are buying consumer models from consumer outlets (which would be ridiculous) they can still have Windows 7 Pro preinstalled. Business partners with the big OEMs have much more flexibility than consumers markets. Even my small business clients get Win7 preinstalled, just ordered 3 today like that. I don't see an end in sight for this option. As for U.S. consumers regressing to Windows 7 - not unless they're complete geeks. They've been brainwashed by the press to hate windows in the first place. But the average consumer could care less. They're the reason this stuff is dumbed down so far. They've been using iPads and Android tablets for a while now. They don't expect Windows anymore. Its more convenient for them to see the 3 icons they actually use (browser, email, solitaire) on their computers and just click on or touch those. Even the 70 & 80 year olds I've dealt with have no problems with Windows 8 Metro UI. But then again, I don't make an issue out of it with them. It is what it is. And it is on their PC. At least they're not stuck using Safari. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 The WIn8 numbers will include all the new machines sold nominally with Win8 ( essentailly every machine sold since its introduction i.e. with Win 8 licences). It doesn't tell you how many wer regressed to Win7 by the buyers (which would be the vast majority of corporate purchases). -- Stuart On 5 Mar 2014 at 4:07, Darryl Collins wrote: > Yeah, It puts the Mac (OS X PC at least) market into perspective that > is for sure. I would also guess that a the W8 numbers are made up of > some early adopters and testers, but mainly folks who just buy from > the Shop when their old PC dies and meekly accept whatever OS it comes > with. It is clear there is little enthusiasm for W8.x from majority > of the PC customers. I mean, even Vista has managed 3.1% share and > that is a widely unloved OS. Not that far behind W8.1 on 4.3%. I > would really love to see Enterprise/Business vs consumer in here. I > would bet that the W8 installs are widely biased towards the consumer > market. > > I would also suspect that much of the W8.1 number is cannibalising the > W8.0 percentage, given it is a free update and does offer a better > experience that W8. Even so - I am surprised that those number are > not reversed, more folks on 8.1 than 8.0. To me, that adds support to > my "mum and dads" theory on W8 user base. These folks are large not > tech savvy, what other explanation can there be to have a higher W8 vs > W8.1 percentage? > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Benson > Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2014 2:56 PM To: Access Developers discussion > and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 > > Darryl, I have to laugh that they bothered putting Win 98 in the > table, just to show it at 0.00%. I appreciate your posting what you > did because it surprised me 8 is as far along as it is, in just a > couple years. Weird. I took the only win 8 machine I owned back to the > store where I bought it. I wonder if sales are one way in that > compilation? > > ;) > > It was interesting to see Win 8/8+ has more market share than all Mac > software combined. > > I read that in Dec 2013 Win 7 had its biggest monthly market share > gain in a year, continuing to rise even while MS presses manufacturers > and the public to adopt 8.1. In my non industry expert guess it is due > to the fact that sales of XP are not commercially available anymore > maybe? -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com