Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Tue Feb 3 21:31:09 CST 2015
You are obviously having the worse experiences with it. I tend to be lazy and use the terminal only when all else fails and mostly for speed. I tend to find Windows too dumbed down and unless your willing to go down to the command prompt network issues can be impossible to fix. I must relate a story of a client that I helped a couple (three) of years ago. They had all Windows XP boxes but decided to experiment by setting a dozen by upgrading to Linux (in this case Ubuntu), to save money. It took only four hours, on a Saturday afternoon, to install a dozen new system, connect to all the printer, the network, the internet and install all the office software. A young lady there (24-25), who knew basically nothing about computers, helped me with the install. I thought that I might be supporting them for years, one way of another, but it was not so. She just picked the ball up and ran with it. I understand the whole office (50 desktops) and all the servers are now running Linux and everything runs flawlessly. So with no computer system training or experience (thank God for Google), this young person did all this without any help from me and she just loves it. The truth is that she was young and didn't have to unlearn any bad habits. I have had no problem with Linux but back in the day, I was a certified SCO Unix installer, so it was just like being back home again. This does not mean that I do not like Windows; it is just that the moment we step away from the desktop and move into the world of the internet, its a Linux universe out there. Don't give up on Linux...it is hardly smarter than you are and I have found it to be great fun as it has all the latest and greatest technologies, first. As Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft say, "We love Linux." Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at gmail.com> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 February, 2015 1:38:00 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] I couldn't post I was reading about snappy just the other day. A few months back I built a midrange AMD 6 core with 24 gigs RAM. I installed Windows 7 on it, but I ended up saving that into a VM image (I hope) and installing Linux Mint on that machine. I did so to allow me to get into Linux. So far it has been a PITA. I read an interesting article called something like "Linux is not Windows" about why Linux and Windows are so different and how best to approach Linux. All I can say is "yea yea, it still sux". In the first week of trying to do anything with it (even though this is Mint mind you) I typed more crap into the command line than I had in the entire last 20 years using Windows. In one stinking week. So Linux is DOS on steroids with a Gui that is barely used laid over the top. Or so it seems. I'm actually OK with that I guess, I was a DRDOS wizard back in the day, I can deal with the command line. I must say I find it amusing to listen to the Linux Gurus... "Yea, I use XYZ today but last month I was heavy into KJKL, but I didn't like the installer. Before that I was using..." And then there is the whole "what desktop are you using" issue. As if that makes any damned difference ANYWAY since you are constantly typing into a command window. It's like a mark of manhood to be able to say that you have used 47 different forks of Linux in the last two years, and 19 different desktop variants ON EACH ONE... Down here in the south we just carry a big gun to mark our manhood. Well... not me but those "manhood deficient" types. To be honest, I don't give a rat's patuty what Linux variant I use. I would prefer that the OS fade into the background and let me get some actual WORK DONE, hello come in. Instead of spending hours trying to figure out how to the the app installed. To say that this has been ... interesting... would be... well... a lie. I REALLY don't want to learn how to type crap into the command line, I want to get MariaDB installed and start using it. I want to get VMs up and running and start using them. I want to get Wine installed and start using it. Notice that in all cases I REALLY want to GET USING THEM. But to do that you gonna be a typin' in the command window! Say what you want about Windows but you click Install and wait. When it is done, you open the app you just installed and start using it. Windows (until Windows 8.x) was just a platform which hosted apps. You never actually DO (did) anything in Windows itself, you use apps ON Windows. Not so with Linux. Climbs down off the soap box. And so I have a honkin machine that runs Linux Mint. It does NOT run MariaDB (yet), not does it run VMs (yet). I think it runs Wine, but without much more command window typin I can't be sure. I can run Firefox and FreeOffice etc. Through the GUI no less. Yeaaaa. John W. Colby On 2/3/2015 3:55 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Just posted the following on Facebook this morning: > > "Some people reading that both Windows 10 or Ubuntu can be installed, on the new PIs...but the software that can load is a specialize version of both. IoT (program) for Windows and Snappy for Ubuntu...both designed specifically for use in embedded devices. OTOH, Ubuntu has a server/terminal product which allows PIs to run as thin clients: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP." > > There is a lot of interesting products out there. The Ubuntu stuff should run on Mint without issues. (Now that I have retired I prefer Linux distros over Windows ones and just use Windows products so to keep my hands in. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at gmail.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2015 8:35:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] I couldn't post > > I don't think so. I am also running it on a Linux Mint machine which I > am playing with. > > Speaking of Linux, the Raspberry Pi B 2 just hit the internet. With a > quad core v7 core and a gig of Ram, otherwise identical. > > I am seriously considering building out a parallel processor using a > bunch of these. Lots of press on a bunch of guys doing this, using the > old Pi. > > With a faster processor, quad cores and twice the memory, the overall > horsepower just went up radically. I'm thinking of maybe starting with > 8 of them. (32) one ghz cores and 8 gigs of ram anyone? > > I ordered a BeagleBone black last week (before this announcement) > because I love ucontroller / electronics stuff. I got my start in > electronics back in the late 60s, pre ucontroller. A few years back I > started playing with the Atmel uc series, with many different pin > packages. It was a bit of a pita to set up but was a ton-o-fun. I > actually designed a pulse width modulation motor driver, driving a cmos > high power driver, driving a very powerful motor from a ride on toy. > > The BeagleBone has most of that stuff built right in, in a package size > the same as the Pi. Well, not the high power cmos amp... But it has a > couple of dedicated 200 mhz controllers right on die for the real time > stuff to dr. > > Of course you have to program them in assembler... > > And just a slew of i/o. Cool stuff. > > > John W. Colby > > On 2/2/2015 9:16 PM, Darryl Collins wrote: >> Isn't Thunderbird unsupported by Mozilla these days? I thought they stopped working on it a while back now - maybe 18 months or more? >> >> Anyway, welcome Back John. >> >> Cheers >> Darryl >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby >> Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2015 1:09 PM >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Subject: [AccessD] I couldn't post >> >> I've been here forever, I just couldn't post because my Thunderbird install on my laptop insisted on using the wrong output email address and so AccessD servers kicked my replies back. >> >> I finally decided to just uninstall and reinstall (and lose all my stuff >> - it's a long story). >> >> -- >> John W. 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