jack drawbridge
jackandpat.d at gmail.com
Sun Jan 18 13:12:11 CST 2015
Thank you Shamil for the links. Are you saying there is no link to your
article? I saw in a couple of things I found, that included reference to
...to be continued..
I did find code (not many comments) that referred to Access '97.
Thank you again,
Jack
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
wrote:
> I'm not flattering Charlotte, I'm just simply stating the obvious.
>
> Deep thanks, for your remembering my "DEEP" article, Charlotte! ;)
>
> Well, it ("DEEP-objects concept" article, 1998) was (a bit) naïve but it
> was conceptually correct, actually it was (a "reinvention of the wheel",) a
> variety of MVC software design pattern implementations. When publishing my
> article I was unaware that MVC pattern was first introduced in 1976 (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller ) and
> described in details in 1995 by "Gang of four" (
> http://www.blackwasp.co.uk/GofPatterns.aspx ). I should have known that
> previous works.
>
> And you see MVC (pun intended :) ) software design pattern is applied
> everywhere nowadays
>
> - ASP.NET MVC 5 (
> http://dotnetcodes.com/dotnetcodes/code/Interview-Questions-129-ASPNET-MVC-Overview.aspx
> ) l
>
> - AngularJS (well it's MVW :) -
> http://job-blog.bullgare.ru/2013/07/angularjs-mvc-or-mvvm/ )
>
> - Cocoa (
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/General/Conceptual/DevPedia-CocoaCore/MVC.html
> )
> ...
>
> but it still a real PITA to apply MVC pattern in MS Access VBA-driven apps
> as VBA is not well suited for advanced custom software development and will
> probably never be.
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
>
> Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:12:15 -0800 from Charlotte Foust <
> charlotte.foust at gmail.com>:
> >Don't flatter an old woman like that, Shamil. It'll go to my head, which
> >is already big enough! ;-) <BLUSH/>
> >
> >Seriously, a comment like that means a lot coming from you. I got started
> >with classes by reading your DEEP article.
> >
> >Charlotte
> >
> >On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru
> >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Charlotte --
> >>
> >> I wish I could afford it too, maybe more for the fun to take a Caribbean
> >> Cruise than anything else..
> >>
> >> It's great to hear that you have a waiting queue of MS Access projects!
> >> You're an outstanding MS Access developer, no doubts.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> -- Shamil
> >>
> >> Sun, 18 Jan 2015 05:53:27 -0800 from Charlotte Foust <
> >> charlotte.foust at gmail.com >:
> >> >Wish I could afford that trip, Shamil. Armen Stein is a great guy and
> I'm
> >> >sure there will be plenty of other Access MVPs aboard. I hadn't heard
> >> >about the cruise, but I'll be going to the Portland Access Users Group
> >> >annual conference in May, which will also be heavy with MVPs, including
> >> >Armen. There definitely still is work in Access development, and IT
> >> >departments don't object to well-built apps that can be maintained by
> >> admin
> >> >users. They object to the ones the users themselves build (so do I!).
> >> I'm
> >> >currently working on a project for a non-medical department at Kaiser
> and
> >> >have two more short term projects lined up with a nearby county and
> >> another
> >> >large healthcare provider. I didn't have to sell them on Access, it's
> >> what
> >> >they wanted because they are familiar with it. Recruiters call me for
> the
> >> >jobs.
> >> >
> >> >Charlotte
> >> >
> >> >On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <
> mcp2004 at mail.ru
> >> >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >> But we have been let down, from a vibrant tool to a piece of crap
> >> >> >> that leaves the developers constantly having to build work
> arounds to
> >> >> get
> >> >> >> features working propertly.
> >> >>
> >> >> Last ship (of MS Access developers)? ;)
> >> >> http://www.jstreettech.com/AccessDay.aspx
> >> >>
> >> >> -- Shamil
> >> >>
> <<< skipped >>>
> >
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