[AccessD] No more Access Web Apps on Office 365

Mon Apr 3 12:33:05 CDT 2017

I have been thinking like you on this subject for some time. IMHO, such an app could be assembled with our current technology. The only reason this has not been done is that anything webbased is hard for a company to attach a dollar value to and then be able to extract that fee. In order for Microsoft to guarantee a good profit on any of their applications, they must be tethered them to their desktop and only their desktop. It is nearly impossible to monetize the internet as all the easy profit streams already have well established companies in place.

I think that is the real problem.

Aside: IMHO, I think Microsoft should go the Redhat route; just do product support: http://cnb.cx/2ou233G . RHEL has just replaced all the server software, up at our local university. Redhat are charging about $800 to a thousand, per unit, per year, for support...I would bet there are thousands of servers up there(?). Microsoft could have had that contract, easy, if they were on the ball but according to a friend, at UVic, their pricing structures were too complex and their service had been poor in the past. I am sure MS will be back, as they can't let a coup like that happen in their backyard but it will now cost the company a fortune. (It officially cost MS around a 100 million (the real figures are supposed to be much higher) to get Munich, Germany, back from the grips of a competitor and the competition was hardly a challenge.) Microsoft is virtually giving away millions of Windows10 packages, in China and making all sorts of design concessions as demanded by the Chinese government. This is all in an effort to have a place from which to sell their biggest product, MS Office... unfortunately, without the ultimate universal database front-end application, Access.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan W" <wrwehler at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 7:17:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] No more Access Web Apps on Office 365

It would be really nice if they had a way to import a Access FE in and
somehow convert it all to web.  I've been wanting a way to ditch Access
without completely redeveloping my App in something cross platform (Web
would be ideal)... but that's just a silly pipe dream.

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net> wrote:

>
>  Unfortunately Microsoft's approach to "end user" web development wasn't
> very cohesive.
>
>  They tried to bring Light switch in as a replacement for desktop Access
> and
> were pushing AWA for the web/mobile world.  They have been fooling around
> with that since 2006 and were already late to the party then. The real
> issue
> with AWA is that rather than thinking out of the box, they tried to
> leverage
> SharePoint once again.
>
>  Not sure who's responsible for that, but someone at Microsoft thought
> SharePoint was the center of the universe and should be used for
> *everything*.  Fantastic workflow collaboration tool, but relational DB or
> web host it is not.
>
>  I do however still believe they have a shot at it.  If they can develop
> something for the Web/Mobile world with the tenets of Access (ease of use
> through wizards, etc) and make it easy for the common Joe/Josephine to get
> started, then they can still grab a seat at the table.  They'll have to do
> it very fast though, and it does seem like they realize that as they seem
> to
> be all in in regards to Power Apps.
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Ryan W
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 09:52 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] No more Access Web Apps on Office 365
>
> Ugh.  That's pretty sad.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >  Yes.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > Ryan W
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 03:16 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] No more Access Web Apps on Office 365
> >
> > Is this their very late response to Oracle APEX?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > What is "Power Apps"?
> > >
> > > Please explain more...I am very interested in hear about the Access
> > > replacement.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> > > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 11:16:48 PM
> > > Subject: [AccessD] No more Access Web Apps on Office 365
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Not that I have used these - as little as the former attempts to bring
> > > Access to the web - but they will be phased out soon:
> > >
> > > https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Office-
> > > Retirement-Blog/Updating-the-Access-Services-in-SharePoint-
> > > Roadmap/ba-p/57148
> > >
> > > The suggested "replacement", not related to Access at all, is Power
> Apps.
> > >
> > > /gustav
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