[AccessD] OT- Data model -ERD Tool - request for info

[jack drawbridge]

Note this is a repost of an earlier attempt. I had an attachment that was
too large; canceled, but had already sent a followup with current info re
Toad freeware version.
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Thanks Borge. I did see Toad and did get a copy of free edition a few
months ago. I found it a little more cumbersome than ErWin community, and
each time I open the free version I meet a screen asking me about Toad. If
I cancel that form, I do get to use the free version. I also find it
difficult to get straight to the free version info. It seems hidden behind
a lot of marketing(possibly because of ownership changes???) I do like that
you can generate an Access database from the data model with Toad.
I do get a warning that my license will expire in XX days???
I just looked at your link an found that the page could not be found.
.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:44 PM, jack drawbridge <jackandpat.d at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Borge,
>
> I did some more searching and found this link
> http://www.toadworld.com/m/freeware/553
>
> There is  info here on the right side of the page re freeware versions.
> http://www.toadworld.com/products/toad-data-modeler
>
> I do notice  DELL on many items.
> I will try again  and download the freeware (32/64?) mainly because it
> deals with logical and physical models.
>
> Thanks again for your response.
>
> jack
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:33 PM, jack drawbridge <jackandpat.d at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Borge. I did see Toad and did get a copy of free edition a few
>> months ago. I found it a little more cumbersome than ErWin community, and
>> each time I open the free version I meet a screen asking me about Toad. If
>> I cancel that form, I do get to use the free version. I also find it
>> difficult to get straight to the free version info. It seems hidden behind
>> a lot of marketing(possibly because of ownership changes???) I do like that
>> you can generate an Access database from the data model with Toad.
>> I do get a warning that my license will expire in XX days???
>> I just looked at your link an found the following.
>> If you have other info on Toad, I would like to try it again.
>>
>> Thanks
>> jack
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Borge Hansen <pcs.accessd at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is also Toad. They have a freeware version. Have a look at:
>>> http://www.toadworld.com/m/freeware/borge
>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:18 AM +0800, "jack drawbridge" <
>>> jackandpat.d at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> I did download and try SQL Power Architect. Seems more than adequate for
>>> small model. It deals with physical rather than logical, but that's fine.
>>> It's hard to be more specific since I just loaded it, watched some
>>> youtube
>>> and built a Customer-Order-Product  model.
>>> I will look at other tools at some point.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:40 AM, jack drawbridge
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks folks for the quick responses.
>>> > Charlotte, I am watching a tutorial on dbSchema, and have looked at
>>> MySql
>>> > workbench.
>>> > Thanks for the link Jim. I'll check it out.
>>> > Arthur, I'm not into Linux per se, but will try that route if I can't
>>> find
>>> > a suitable tool for Windows.
>>> >
>>> > I really liked Erwin Community edition --even though I only scratched
>>> the
>>> > surface of its functionality. I'm really only dealing with a few
>>> > tables/entities (10-15 at most)  various relationships and ease of use
>>> --
>>> > oh yes and FREE.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for your responses.
>>> > jack
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Arthur Fuller
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have used ERwin but far preferred PowerDesigner, developed by
>>> Sybase but
>>> >> now apparently owned by SAP. Also, I don't whether this will apply to
>>> you,
>>> >> but on Linux there are several good tools, all free.
>>> >>
>>> >> Arthur
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Charlotte Foust <
>>> >> charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > It isn't free but low cost:  dbSchema.  I had to find something
>>> after
>>> >> they
>>> >> > removed the modelling tools from Visio.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Charlotte Foust
>>> >> > 916-206-4336
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Mar 2, 2017 6:52 AM, "jack drawbridge"
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi Group,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I've been retired for many years and don't do much with Access or
>>> >> database.
>>> >> > I do participate in a few Access related forums. We used ErWin
>>> >> -corporate
>>> >> > license way back when working.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >  I have used ErWin Community Edition (free but with several
>>> >> constraints) to
>>> >> > build data models to assist posters. Yesterday, I found that the
>>> >> Community
>>> >> > Edition was no longer available. Nada. No community edition will be
>>> >> > available in future.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So my question is -does anyone have/use a free tool to build ERDs.
>>> If
>>> >> so,
>>> >> > could you recommend same and provide any links to further info.
>>> >> > Thanks in advance.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > jack
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