[AccessD] Late Lessons from 9/11

[Gary Kjos]

Redundant backups on different media is the way to go for a longer
term.  We can't know that our backups are readable on the next
generation regardless.  Hey I had that backed up on my ZIP DRIVE!
Burned CD's aren't always readable.  Those 128 GB thumb drives are not
going to be readable forever......Backup your backups
 <grin>

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 7:38 PM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's only a matter of time before Elon Musk figures out that off-planet
> backups are safest of all. 😉
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 7:07 PM Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I got a 128 from a friend who had a busines of printing on all kinds of
> > premiums and giveaways.  Anyway, I helped him shut down his business and he
> > had stacks of these 128s.  I tried one - very slow data transfer when
> > you're trying to store 10s of GBs. I didn;t think it was practical.  Ecven
> > if you do, there's your data backed up next to the machine that's going
> > down in the fire.  Along with your 128s.
> >
> > Offsite is the only way to perfect that security.
> >
> > r
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 1:13 PM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My local hardware vendor offers 128GB thumb drives dirt cheap. I'm going
> > to
> > > buy one and perhaps a pair. And they are SanDisks. I have an array of
> > thumb
> > > drives, reflecting their purchase date. The most ancient is a
> > > DataTraveller, 16GB. Next is a Lexar 64GB. Perhaps following the
> > purchase I
> > > shall donate them to some worthy cause.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 3:47 PM Peter Brawley <peter.brawley at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 13:58, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "The 9/11 destruction of the Twin Trade Towers caused Morgan Stanley
> > to
> > > >> lose the source code of their flagship financial application written
> > in
> > > >> Visual Age Smalltalk (VAST)."
> > > >>
> > > >> In the age of Cloud computing, this is not much of a problem. Surely
> > > >> every developer, whether an individual or a a firm as large as
> > > Accenture,
> > > >> stores everything off-premises, on Google Drive or OneDrive or
> > something
> > > >> similar.
> > > >> I am a one-person operation, but I manage to store everything of
> > > >> consequence (basically meaning code and documents of various types) on
> > > >> Google Drive, OneDrive and locally, on a 128GB thumb drive, so I can
> > > move
> > > >> it between computers with no effort beyond plugging it in.
> > > >> Incidentally, it took a few guys a few weeks to write a decompiler for
> > > >> Morgan Stanley, and they managed to recover a bunch of the original
> > > code,
> > > >> but the names of variables proved more problematic.
> > > >> Anyway, I just wanted to state the obvious: hope for the best but plan
> > > >> for the worst. Keep your source code and even compiled apps in a place
> > > you
> > > >> can get to from anywhere else. Nothing crucial should be stored
> > locally
> > > >> only.
> > > >> To put it another way, Murphy was an optimist.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Right, the rule is, update remote backups at intervals shorter than the
> > > > quantity of data you can afford to lose. My stuff also includes a music
> > > > server so my number is 2-3TB, too much to pipe or even update across
> > our
> > > > slow rural intertoobs here, so my last resort is a portable hard drive
> > > in a
> > > > safety deposit box.
> > > >
> > > > p.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> --
> > > >> Arthur
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
> > > > *Where money is speech, speech isn't free.*
> > > >
> > > >
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