[AccessD] Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for Windows: Lifetime License | TechSpot

Thu Jun 23 14:30:21 CDT 2022

Interesting, Paul. Thank you.
Paul

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 at 19:01, John Bartow <jbartow at winhaven.net> wrote:

> When I was 59 years old I had a new small office business client that had
> bought personal business licenses from an "online discount price" site. The
> keys worked but I also know exactly what this fellow told you. I'm an MS
> Cloud Services partner (or whatever they call us this week). I sell 100s of
> licenses a month. We get a few percentages off the list price.
>
> I file a support case with Microsoft concerning the site in question.
> While they agreed that it is not a valid reseller they would tell me if
> they did anything about it or not.
>
> The business office that had purchased the licenses this way would not
> relinquish them and purchase them properly so they could actually utilize
> the 365 cloud mgt (personal business licenses bought via Microsoft.com
> aren’t the same as business license - all very confusing). And move on to
> fully utilizing the 365 cloud environment. So it was a nightmare mix of
> licensing they would need and they were constantly confused over how to
> manage those and because they were so cheap about that I just walked away.
> One hour of my time was coasting them more than if they would've have just
> switched to real licenses. When I turned 60 I decided my retirement plan is
> to only work with people I like in environments I enjoy working in. it was
> a profitable year I spent with them but that office didn’t fit my
> criteria...
>
> Avoid saving a penny by spending a dollar.
>
> John B
>
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> Lifetime License | TechSpot
>
> Hi,
>
> So I asked my local computer shop about this deal and this is what he said
> (for those of you not in New Zealand his reference to IRD relates to our
> government's tax authority [like the IRS in the USA] and his sell price
> equates to United States $664):
>
> "When the offer looks “Too Good To Be True” it is because it is in fact a
> false offer.
>
>
>
> The site claims to offer you 85% off Microsoft Office.
>
> You will not ever get 85% off a genuine Microsoft Office product.
>
> There are a large number of reasons behind the scenes that make such a
> discount level not possible unless you qualify for the Microsoft Charity
> Price List that is for registered not-for profit charity organisation who
> can provide a valid IRD charity status certificate and their discount is
> large but not 85%.
>
>
>
> The Two ways such an offer can be made.
>
> They either have “stolen” a charity organisations license and are selling
> it with or without the owners knowledge and consent or they have a
> “pirated” or “cracked” copy out of China that cost them nothing.
>
> If the non-profit is caught and it can be proven they were aware of the
> theft then they can have their non-profit tax exemption revoked plus face
> prosecution.
>
> When you install the product, you agree to the actual Microsoft Terms and
> Conditions that include $10,000 USD penalty for private user or $50,000 USD
> penalty for a business user.
>
> Either way they are selling a fake license at 100% profit that put the
> purchaser in the position of “receiving stolen goods” and liable for legal
> penalty from law enforcement plus penalty prosecution from Microsoft.
>
> The vendor is almost always in a country that does not restrict nor
> prosecute such activity.
>
> Microsoft have got very clever at catching these offenders and we think
> that they embed “pirate copy detection” tools inside the Windows Updates
> but that is unproven.
>
> When Microsoft catch a user with such a copy, they usually threaten legal
> action and penalty but allow the user to escape such action if they pay
> Microsoft full retail.
>
> Most users pay Microsoft full retail for each copy and breathe a sigh  of
> relief.
>
>
> We can supply a genuine MS Office Pro Perpetual License. It  is available
> $1,060."
>
> I know he has an incentive to put me off this deal - but does anybody have
> facts that can refute his statements?
>
> Paul Wolstenholme
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 at 13:19, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> wrote:
>
> > Office 2021 Pro Plus Retail installed , registered and running.
> >
> > Looking at the Licence, you CAN transfer it to another machine (so
> > it's a good idea to download the offliine image and archive it
> > somewhere along with the Licence key (presumably only if you sign in
> > to the same MS account you used when you first downloaded and
> > installed - I have a couple of MS accounts and initally had a problem
> > licencing Office because WIndows was using a different MS account to
> > the one I used for the licence.  Changing the MS account resolved the
> > issue)
> >
> > Here's the relevant licence section:
> > Stand-alone software acquired from a retailer. If you acquired the
> > software from a retailer as stand-alone software, you may transfer the
> > software to another device that belongs to you, but no more than once
> > every 90 days (except due to hardware failure, in which case you may
> > transfer sooner). If you transfer the software to another device, that
> > other device becomes the "licensed device." You may also transfer the
> > software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first
> > licensed user of the software and
> > (ii) the new user
> > agrees to the terms of this agreement. Every time you transfer the
> > software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior
> > device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between
> > devices.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23 Jun 2022 at 9:53, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like it is a full retail licence, not OEM.
> > >
> > > I just got it.  After getting a LicenceCode you ar directed to the
> > > Microsoft site to install. I entered the Licence Code on the
> > > microsoft site and they offered me Office 2021 Pro Plus. I picked
> > > "offline installation" and have just downloaded the 4.2GB image
> > > directly from micorosoft.
> > >
> > > The filename from MS is :ProPlus2021Retail.img
> > >  --
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > > On 22 Jun 2022 at 7:46, Jim Dettman via AccessD wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2. One install on one PC literally means that most likely.  It's
> > > > probably an OEM license they are selling, and those don't include
> > > > transfer rights.  You get to install it on one PC and that will be
> > > > it.
> > > >   If your motherboard goes, you'll be buying a new copy.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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